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To: jtal
The Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue has no special authority to speak for “the Vatican.”

Why then doesn't the Vatican come out LOUDLY and say so?

"In his weekly general audience in late May of 1999, Pope John Paul II addressed Muslims in a series discussing "interreligious dialog." He quotes from the 1994 Catechism of the Catholic Church n. 841 which states, "... together with us they (Muslims) adore the one, merciful, God." In the Pope's mind, Allah and YAHWEH are one and the same God??
87 posted on 09/08/2010 9:10:39 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
In the Pope's mind, Allah and YAHWEH are one and the same God??

Nope. Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch fame explained that.

From Robert Spencer on Muslim Beliefs and Sources of Extremism

The Catechism, working from Vatican II's "Nostra Aetate," does say that, "the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place among whom are the Muslims. These profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us adore one Merciful God, mankind's judge in the last day."

This is a carefully worded statement. It does not actually say that Muslims believe in Abraham's faith, but only that they profess to hold the faith of Abraham.

Professing and possessing are two different things: Certainly there are many more Christians who profess Christ than there are people who actually live for him. Nowhere does the Catechism say that Muslims are not eligible for the salvation that is in Christ, or that the Gospel should not be preached to them.

102 posted on 09/08/2010 9:18:38 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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In the Pope's mind, Allah and YAHWEH are one and the same God??

I was infuriated when I first read that. After reflecting upon a lot of discussion in the blogosphere and reporting in good Catholic newspapers, I realized that the Pope is correct. If you and I both know a man, and we have vastly different understandings of him, does this mean that we know two different people? Of course not. One of us is likely to be misinterpreting a lot. I believe that to be the case of the Muslims. They worship the God of Abraham, but due to the prophet they follow, well ... they're doing it wrong. This is similar to Paul's 'unknown god' preaching.

109 posted on 09/08/2010 9:22:05 AM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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As I said there is a lot of muddled thinking in the church post V2.

In particular the Vatican bureaucracy seems to have more than its fair share of infestation from the enemy.


118 posted on 09/08/2010 9:23:53 AM PDT by jtal
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