Posted on 09/08/2010 7:31:01 AM PDT by Poundstone
There were fewer federal civilian workers in 2009 than in 1990, 1980 and 1970. It helps to understand what tax dollars are paying for so that people have some perspective of what they are buying - as in this case homeland security and wars. After 9/11, the public was demanding the federal government do something. It did -- and it took people to manage it. That puts much of the criticism leveled at the federal government into perspective.
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Not really! It's the pay and benefits. Why should "public servants" make, on average, over twice what the public sector makes?
In fact, it proves that we are getting less for more...
I also notice the article doesn’t take into account “contract workers” (read: political cronies).
“Federal” and “worker” are two terms that are mutually exclusive.
Perhaps the author might try using the phrase “Gubmint slackers” or “Federal parasites”.
I imagine that the rest of you can come up with something more accurate and fitting.
Not really. There are still far too many federal workers, most serving in agencies, such as the Department of Homeland Security, that should not exist.
Two points on this.
One, it doesn’t count the employees of federal contractors who perform services for the federal government.
Second, it doesn’t take into account the automation factor. Much of government work is bean counting and filing, this kind of work can, and is done more by machine than by government workers sitting in cubicles with their abacuses nowadays.
The statistics cited are far to broad to have much meaning. For example, prior to 2009, all the stats are in Census years. Does 1990, 1980 include census workers? If yes, then measuring only 2009 really is useless.
Also, what about contractors? Military? How many people in total are getting paid by Uncle Sam?
Finally - I live in NY. Even if the Feds don’t kill us, it is the State Unions such as SEIU, AFSCME, CSEA, etc... that will destroy us.
Who are you kidding? U.S. Postal Service numbers were purposefully omitted. This is the same USPS that lost $1.9 billion through the first two quarters of 2010 and is facing a deficit of approximately $7 billion next year.
At the same time the study that was hyped recently didn't include America's 7 million CEOs, nor did it include the top echelon in the financial management industry.
The deal is if you want someone with a valid Masters degree from a reputable school and 15 years experience in the field, you have to pay that person the going rate.
.Those pay rates are supposed to be the same in the federal government that they are in the private sector.
BTW, go ask your attorneys you keep on retainer if they'd work for the $125,000 per annum commonly paid to federal government attorneys. Listen to them laugh!
>Perhaps the author might try using the phrase “Gubmint slackers” or “Federal parasites”.
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>I imagine that the rest of you can come up with something more accurate and fitting.
Personally, I like the term “assmonkies.”
Yep contractors getting paid by taxpayer dollars is as much a drain on the economy as if the government workers did it themselves.
Things like garbage strikes in cities seem bizarre to me. Where I live I have better than a half dozen different trash pickup companies to choose from with a whole range of services. If I don’t like one I can have another. If I wanted to blow the money I could even pay a couple of different companies for various services.
>> Really takes the wind out of the sails of the anti-federal worker crowd!
No it doesn’t.
This doesn’t even explore the problem of the trough-suckers unfunded pension liabilities.
Anyway, what the feds have shifted to is hiring lazy incompetent worthless bureaucrats to “manage” an army of contractors who do the real work.
Don’t try to spin it otherwise. I know better.
The federal government is a giant drag on our national productivity.
There are higher paid managers and specialists but they are few in number compared to most federal government agencies.
If you include USPS pay in the analysis, the average federal government pay drops quite a bit from that analysis.
Not all are sloths, and not all are parasites, but too many are one or both of these things. Also, there are just too damned many of them, period.
The United States is headed towards dissolution in a similar way to the Soviet Union, and for similar reasons. Too many unproductive apparatchiki and nomenklatura are prominent among those reasons.
How about overly confident that their gravy train will continue?
2010 is just the beginning.
Rinse and repeat until we have the representation to reduce Fedzilla to a mewling little kitten. Neither our wallets nor the sordid alphabet agencies are their playthings and we’re sick of being treated like servants.
You should determine the facts before opening your mouth ~
This would not have happened if there were laws prohibiting Government employees( Federal, State, County, Municipal, etc) from being represented by a Union. That is why this is out of control. Thank the SEIU, AFL/CIO and the CWA.
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