[cherry]

at least they could make the pensions start at a reasonable age...like only after 30 full yrs and only starting at age 60 or 62....

SS is going to change, these insane pensions have to change...

and change has to affect those already raking it in....its too late just to make new employees pay....the retirees out there now have to have some skin in the game...

[ElkGroveDan]

at least they could make the pensions start at a reasonable age...like only after 30 full yrs and only starting at age 60 or 62....

Not a good idea...

I plan on collecting mine at age 52.