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To: mojito
This conflict that began when Abraham sent Ishmael away (with his mother and much wealth) and God said He would make Ishmael a great nation. Ishmael had 12 sons as did Jacob. But God had chosen Isaac to be the son that was to be the son of the covenant promise.

So this conflict is seated in deep deep hatred. Good versus evil.

Only God can change this fact and bring any other solution. The Bible says there will be a huge battle and we can see it is near. Read the Bible. The story is there and it is inevitable.

We can choose sides... or have our side chosen for us by our unbelief.

5 posted on 09/04/2010 10:47:18 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: geologist
But God had chosen Isaac to be the son that was to be the son of the covenant promise.

How true your words. Consider this:

"The Jewish (and later Christian) alternative to pagan social order is the Covenant: God in his love assigns rights to every human being, and establishes laws for the protection of the weak and helpless. Covenant is a concept alien to Islam, for by definition a God of covenants places a limit on his own power and enters into a partnership with a human society. The all-transcendent Allah does not stoop to make covenants with mere humans; not so YHWH of the Hebrews. No longer can the Roman paterfamilias command the death of his own children in the little empire of his home; the covenant protects every member of society directly. Because the covenant is expressed through laws, and laws require reasoning, the God of covenants must be a God of reason."

The quote above was taken from an essay by the enigmatic Spenger, and is well worth reading:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LH24Ak01.html

13 posted on 09/04/2010 11:16:53 AM PDT by mojito
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To: geologist

Here’s the live link:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LH24Ak01.html


15 posted on 09/04/2010 11:18:23 AM PDT by mojito
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