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The Sarrazin Debate Germany Is Becoming Islamophobic
Spiegel ^ | 08/31/2010 | Erich Follath

Posted on 09/02/2010 7:00:06 AM PDT by Katya

Thilo Sarrazin's comments about Muslims have triggered outrage in Germany and abroad, but have met with willing listeners among the general public. His rhetoric is slowly bringing about change in Germany, transforming it from a tolerant society into one dominated by fear and Islamophobia. ***more Socially Acceptable

The Turkish-German writer and sociologist Necla Kelek made a speech at the presentation of Sarrazin's book on Monday in which she defended his ideas. Kelek is a fan of Sarrazin and has won several awards in Germany, bestowed by people who -- like her -- see all the problems of the world as being caused by Islam.

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: immigration; muslims; sarrazin
Sarrazin is a member of the left wing SPD, and a board member of Germany's federal bank, who is being pressured to let him go. The Huffington Post also had an article on him, but they decided to headline it with a quote he had made regarding Jews and genetics. Dutch Press is now equating him with Geert Wilders.
1 posted on 09/02/2010 7:00:09 AM PDT by Katya
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To: Katya

To know Islam is to loath Islam. Therefore “Islamophobia” mans knows Islam and reacts normally to the threat of Islam.


2 posted on 09/02/2010 7:13:56 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Katya

The suffix “phobic” implies the fear is irrational. Uh uh.


3 posted on 09/02/2010 7:20:17 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Katya

Ask a German cop his opinion about Turks—and this goes WAY back—and you might not get an earful, but you will guess his opinion very quickly, and it is not favorable. Forty years ago, however, most Turks were just happy to be where they were, did not try to cause trouble and tried to teach their kids German. My guess is that is not longer the case. If the Jews had behaved this way, instead of trying to integrate into German society and having a hard time getting accepted for their efforts—a Hitler would have arise generations before.


4 posted on 09/02/2010 7:30:24 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Katya

THANKS FOR LOCATING THIS KATYA!

This is sooooo, well read it.

~~NOTE ~~ THIS IS AN ORIGINAL QUOTE AND I DID NOT ALTER ANY WORDS OR TERMS ~~

Popular Internet sites like the German blog Politically Incorrect don’t even begin to take the trouble to draw the necessary distinctions. Some of the postings on the site are indicative of this tendency to paint with a very broad brush, postings like: “Islam is a voluntary mental illness,” “It is pointless to grapple with this inferior culture,” and “There is only one word to describe Islam: barbaric.” The anonymity of the Internet enables a boundless, blind hatred to cross the last thresholds of inhibition. Worshippers of the Prophet Mohammed are variously described as “goat fuckers” or “veiled sluts.” “Dirty Muslim!” and “God-damned camel driver” are among the most popular derogatory expressions among young people today.

The Prophet Mohammed has more than an image problem. According to an Emnid poll, a majority now finds him almost as distasteful as Pontius Pilate, the Roman prefect who authorized Jesus’s crucifixion. Some 52 percent of Germans would be opposed to one of their children marrying a Muslim or would only accept it with very strong reservations, while 46 percent would be against one of their children marrying a Buddhist and 30 percent a Jew.

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I just want to add . . . no schtick sherlock.


5 posted on 09/02/2010 7:48:43 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (IMPEACH Barry Dunham Soetoro aka Imam Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama!)
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To: Katya

I’m here in Germany right now. The problem with Herr Sarrazins’ arguement is that he’s essentially saying that Turks (and Arabs as well) are GENETICALLY inferior. In other words, he’s not making a cultural critique (which I can agree with, ie. that Islamic culture is generally backwards and has been since the Mongol conquest of the MidEast), but a biological arguement that by the virtue of genetics the Turks, Arabs, et al, are inferior in intellect, intiative, etc. Needless to say, that sounds to many German ears a little too close to the type of noxious propaganda spewed by a funny little Austrian man here in the 1920’s, 30’s, and 40’s. Seeing as how both Jewish and Arab folks are Semites, I personally find his arguement a little paradoxical......how is it that the Jews got all the good genes, the Arabs the bad? In any event, he’s certainly getting his 15 minutes of fame; he’s on the front page(s) of most of the dailies here in DLand, and his book is selling pretty well, from what I understand. A little publicity (or controversy) certainly never hurt.


6 posted on 09/02/2010 7:51:31 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

I agree... but I’m not surprised a lefty would rely on genetic inferences. Although from radio I’ve been listening to, the outrage is more over his comments and less regarding the merits of the immigration integration problem.


7 posted on 09/02/2010 8:12:43 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: DManA; Katya; markomalley

Katya
***The suffix “phobic” implies the fear is irrational. Uh uh.***

I like the way Markomalley said it...Islamomisia, a revulsion of Islam.


8 posted on 09/02/2010 9:06:35 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( AKA Rodrigo de Bivar)
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