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To: muawiyah

Most people work an “8 hour day” If you are working 22 hour days for 3 days at a time, then you are being worked to death.

Just because young people have energy and some salesmen do cocaine is no reason to make it the “norm”.

Everyone works on “spec(ulation)” in some industries as well (you do the first couple of jobs for “free” to see if it works out).

It’s exploitation. Nothing but.


35 posted on 09/01/2010 9:06:49 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I want IMPROVEMENT, not just CHANGE.)
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To: a fool in paradise
There are some "problems" that require you to keep everything in mind for a long time. Sleep interferes with the process.

Programming, at whatever level, has always taken longer to work through than normal biological schedules allow ~ so those who can do it get the work.

You can't replace this with a team of people.

45 posted on 09/01/2010 9:18:18 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: a fool in paradise

I am 53. I just started at hardware startup 1 week ago. I am working 60 hour weeks for a few reasons. I am getting over 3% of the company stock. I aw unemployed 6 months. I had to take a 15% paycut. However, 15% is far better than zero income. I willingly signed up for this gamble, ane it is the classic silicon valley gamble. Stock vs lower pay and long hours. What is interesting is the experienced old fart with the same old tool set is out performing thf youngster 5 to 1 in production of code and documentation. Its called working smarter. Fewer mistakes and knowing what the documentation has to contain. Also IKl knew what I was signing up for.


48 posted on 09/01/2010 9:25:05 AM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: a fool in paradise

I am 53. I just started at hardware startup 1 week ago. I am working 60 hour weeks for a few reasons. I am getting over 3% of the company stock. I aw unemployed 6 months. I had to take a 15% paycut. However, 15% is far better than zero income. I willingly signed up for this gamble, ane it is the classic silicon valley gamble. Stock vs lower pay and long hours. What is interesting is the experienced old fart with the same old tool set is out performing thf youngster 5 to 1 in production of code and documentation. Its called working smarter. Fewer mistakes and knowing what the documentation has to contain. Also IKl knew what I was signing up for.


49 posted on 09/01/2010 9:25:05 AM PDT by fremont_steve
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