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To: CynicalBear; Pelham; junta; Black Agnes; dixiechick2000
You're ignoring reams of evidence to the contrary including many interviews and writings from King.

And just concentrating on the fruits of one flowery speech he did not even write from his own verse but which he delivered very effectively..

I would expect someone from Montgomery Alabama to know better.

And don't act dumb about Alveda. Sure she is sort of on our side but she has her own angle with her longstanding split with her family and Beck used that to his ends. Fair enough.

Beck thinks King is conservative.

Beck thinks homosexual marriage is harmless.

Beck thinks Teddy Roosevelt is the devil.

Beck thinks all the civil rights legislation of the 1960s was great.

Beck thinks abortion does not need to be on the front burner...his words.

Beck thinks Gert Wilders ..the one European willing to take on Islam..is a fascist.

Beck apologizes to our president who went to Wright's church for 23 years for calling him a bigot.

If that is your cup of tea then by all means have at it. I liked Beck at first and bought two of his books. I'll pass.

Beck's message is muddy and his own references simply inaccurate at times. Beck is like Oprah telling new Conservatives something they might can embrace instead of the red meat I've believed in since Jimmy Carter failed and Reagan rose.

Your my last word on Beck here btw. Unless something else breaks.

And don't even try to lecture me on black and white stuff. I grew up around Pat Derian and Hodding Carter, the Schutt family and other public civil rights activists in Mississippi and my dad helped pay for Vernon Dahmer’s funeral. They were prominent folks..my dad and grandad and were moderate on what was called the “negro issues” then. They both..my father in particular in Waveland MS took threats and property damage from the Klan. My grandfather was so ornery the Klan didn't mess with him and the Citizens Council left him alone when he refused to join. But both lamented how things went so far beyond the original intent of the late 50s and early 60s and they both knew King was basically a socialist as did I and as did even the media then. Have you even glanced at the SCLC members roll? I was very pro civil rights as kid and young man till I had to learn to live the cultural decay around me and the danger of being white in a mostly black world. I got out. Williamson county TN is spared that unlike Jackson or Memphis or NOLA and I resent it. We were foolish to allow it all to go overboard. It should have started and ended with voting rights enforcement but those who survived King always demanded more that just that as did he if his writing on wealth redistribution and redress for blacks are any indication.

It would take a “who you gonna believe me? or your lying eyes” moment not to see King for what he was ideologically but of course he looked better than Rap Brown or Stokley ...Reagan said it best when he signed the MLK holiday bill:

" This is not the reality but the perception and the perception has become the image which has become the reality...about King....paraphrased but close."

Beck takes that to another level.

76 posted on 09/01/2010 8:44:11 AM PDT by wardaddy (effed up times..)
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To: wardaddy

you said: “I would expect someone from Montgomery Alabama to know better.”

I stopped reading right there. It’s obvious you don’t pay attention when reading. I am NOT from Mongomery and have never been. I said I am in South Carolina. You obviously project your bias when reading

I will not debate you any further on this subject. If you can’t grasp what you read there’s not much sense.


77 posted on 09/01/2010 8:53:55 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: wardaddy

Put yourself in the place of all those nice people on the Mall Saturday. For years sadists have been drilling them and beating them down without mercy. And then comes good cop half of the tag team, Beck/Palin telling them the sadists have distorted the message and the messenger, but it is gonna be ok if you just believe. It is how cults are run, sweet sounding induction, breakdown by sadists, comfort by psychopaths, cult member for life.


78 posted on 09/01/2010 9:21:34 AM PDT by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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