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To: WyvernAK; lady lawyer
Money and Power talks, bullshit and Democracy walks every time in most parts of the world.

How about Power and Democracy? Why can't that combination work? I truly believe the reason GWB's doctrine didn't work was because the leftists attacked it from the get-go -- those same people that after two years of hell plead that we give obummer MORE time! --and divided the nation and indeed the world from the most courageous bold plan to bring moderation and a modicum of democracy to M.E. EVER. Power combined with setting the foundations for democracy. Contrary to what most people are told it was done before and even TODAY in Islamic countries. It was done in Iran, it is done today in Turkey and other moderate Islamic countries. Now I know that you would say these countries did it on their own, but that's just an illusion. Powerful countries and especially western powers have ALWAYS had their hands into the ME politics, churning and machinating one way or another depending on their politics. Look at Iran and carter's damnable machinations.

No, I never buy the ignorant and self-serving liberal line about "change comes exclusively from within their own culture". It has a lot, and in the case of ME, perhaps EVERYTHING to do with the outside political culture and designs.

13 posted on 08/30/2010 2:41:05 PM PDT by parisa
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To: parisa
Turkey that required the military to all but sit on it for the better part of a century to even have a semblance at stability and is now that the army backed off sliding back into a slow spiral to theocracy.
Iran, that has the Revolutionary guard all but hand pick each new president? And spends its free time building ambassador of death unmanned drones and making statements that they will soon destroy Irsrial, the United States, Dilbert etc.

I do cheer on the democracy movements in Iran I think it will come to little, and just wait till they get the bomb.

And from your own point, the great powers have always tried to make changes in the middle east, you think they did anything within sanity distance of a good job? That right there should be held up for all time as the example of things made worse by meddling foreign powers.

14 posted on 08/30/2010 2:52:15 PM PDT by WyvernAK
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