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To: ReignOfError; Steely Tom; Steve Van Doorn
Black voters, including the few who managed to register in the South, identified as Republican until the mid-20th century. Harry Truman’s desegregation of the armed forces started to pull black voters to the Democrats. JFK’s support for civil rights, albeit mostly lip service, drew some more; the Civil Rights Act of 1964 sealed the deal.

Those histories just aren't true, they are myths.

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24 posted on 08/29/2010 4:22:40 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

The split in the black vote in the 1936 election is not as dramatic as it might seem; FDR won 60% of the overall vote, so blacks were only slightly more likely to vote Democratic than the population at large. In the party ID chart, you can see the two effects I was talking about; black voters identifying as Republican start out at about half, drop sharply in 1948, then fall off the table in 1964.

I clearly did underestimate the effect of the New Deal in winning over black voters. From those numbers, there were clearly a large number of self-identified black Republicans voting for FDR (a lot of white Republicans did that, too). I wrote that the desegregation of the military, then the Civil Rights Act peeled blacks away from the GOP; allow me to amend that to the New Deal, then the desegregation, etc.

What’s the source for the data? I’d like to see the numbers before 1936. A regional breakdown, if one exists, might also be interesting; black voters were kept out of Democratic “white primaries” up to and including 1944 in much of the South.


29 posted on 08/29/2010 9:02:09 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ansel12

The split in the black vote in the 1936 election is not as dramatic as it might seem; FDR won 60% of the overall vote, so blacks were only slightly more likely to vote Democratic than the population at large. In the party ID chart, you can see the two effects I was talking about; black voters identifying as Republican start out at about half, drop sharply in 1948, then fall off the table in 1964.

I clearly did underestimate the effect of the New Deal in winning over black voters. From those numbers, there were clearly a large number of self-identified black Republicans voting for FDR (a lot of white Republicans did that, too). I wrote that the desegregation of the military, then the Civil Rights Act peeled blacks away from the GOP; allow me to amend that to the New Deal, then the desegregation, etc.

What’s the source for the data? I’d like to see the numbers before 1936. A regional breakdown, if one exists, might also be interesting; black voters were kept out of Democratic “white primaries” up to and including 1944 in much of the South.


30 posted on 08/29/2010 9:03:21 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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