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To: Monorprise
The Founders were much wiser people then we are they set up the senate with this spesfic function for good reasons. Although it was not prefect it function a lot better then what we have had sense we broke their system.

The more I've learned about the founding fathers (good and bad) as well as seeing the effects of where the federal government has overstepped the constitution gives me a new appreciation for the genius of what they put down in the constitution. It wasn't perfect, but it is far better than what our politicians have rendered it down to...and then discarded altogether. Now we have a speaker of the house like Pelosi, who when asked what provision of the constitution supported their laws laughed in the face of the questioner. Or you have congressman Pete Stark respond to a similar question asking what limits the federal government has from the constitution...he replied they could do pretty much anything they want to.

I encourage everyone to vote in November, but I have a feeling that it's just too little too late and more like window dressing and rearranging of chairs on the deck of the titanic. But until the ship goes down, by all means keep bailing...but it looks like the whole is too big and we're taking on too much water...and it also looks like some of the crew is attempting to sabotage the efforts of those trying to bail.

34 posted on 08/26/2010 12:07:15 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: highlander_UW

I encourage everyone to vote in November..........
I agree, use the ballot box to right abuses against this great nation

The founders were very astute, where as present politicians are not.
Our present pols forget that the purpose of the 2nd was to prevent Pelosi and Stark types from continuing their abuses.

At sometime in the near future I suspect that Pelosi and her ilk will find that not everyone will bend to their abuses of the constitution.

I hope and pray that the ballot box will correct the abuses, but I fear that the only correction will come with violent confrontation.

Therefore I prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Mods this is not meant to be a threat against a elected official just my interpretation of events playing out in todays society.


36 posted on 08/26/2010 12:19:35 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: highlander_UW

“I encourage everyone to vote in November, but I have a feeling that it’s just too little too late and more like window dressing and rearranging of chairs on the deck of the titanic. But until the ship goes down, by all means keep bailing...but it looks like the whole is too big and we’re taking on too much water...and it also looks like some of the crew is attempting to sabotage the efforts of those trying to bail.”

I must admit the ship has been sinking much faster then we have ever been able to bail her out. Our efforts at stopping this have mostly been focused upon changing the chairs in Washington D.C. and each and every time we have made at best only token progress in reversing or even slowing the progress of this evil.(The centralization and growth of power in the Government)

If we are going to win this fight we need a game changer.
We can’t keep taking theses kinds of losses forever, eventually there will come a time when the great cycle will have to repeat itself, how that happens is a matter which we can influence.

Will we walk thou the desert of despotism before we endure the fire of Revolution, or will we somehow end this madness while we still have some shreds of a republic left?

We know form a study of history that there are very few examples where civilizations have been able to “reset” or even hold the clock in freedom as to avoid the “painful part” of the great cycle.

I know that if we are to “cheat fate” we will need to learn from their failures and successes and uses modern technology to give us the advantage they never had.

There are a great many minds between us have faith that if we study and discuss theses issues more then a few of us will find more then a few possible ways in which we can “tempt fate”.


39 posted on 08/26/2010 1:18:12 AM PDT by Monorprise
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