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To: Marine1992

I’m all over the board politically, but in my objective view I think the gay issue will hurt the conservative party politically until they reconcile with the people they’ve caused so much pain through their anti-gay rhetoric.

The great thing about America is not our conservative or liberal tradition, but rather our tradition of compromise. These are our sons and daughters. These are Americans. More importantly they are humans. We do wrong when we judge and condemn. Our history is littered with gay humans who have greatly advanced our evolution. No honest person would say otherwise. When the bible is used to justify hatred, we only repeat our past.

Peace and prosperity.


80 posted on 08/25/2010 8:50:27 PM PDT by tommy k5
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To: tommy k5
I think the gay issue will hurt the conservative party politically until they reconcile with the people they’ve caused so much pain through their anti-gay rhetoric.

Let's see: the gay lobby has shut parents out of any decision-making about what their children will be taught about sexuality from kindergarten onwards; the gay lobby has insisted that gay issues be included in all curricula including math so that parents cannot opt their children out; GLSEN insists on indoctrinating children into unhealthy sex techniques and where to pick up gay partners; gay activists have taken tiny children with them to revolting public sex exhibitions like Folsom that feature live sex acts including S&M; gay activists have sued to have the words "husband" and "wife" removed from schoolbooks and marriage licenses; gay activists have persecuted ex-gays and the public places that try to host their meetings; gay activists targeted supporters of Prop 8 for hateful stalking and threats; the gay lobby has called the founding religious traditions of the greatest nation the world has ever known "bigotry" -- and you think conservatives have caused gays "so much pain"?

109 posted on 08/26/2010 9:41:47 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Rest in peace, Congressman BillyBob.)
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I think the gay issue will hurt the conservative party politically until they reconcile with the people they’ve caused so much pain through their anti-gay rhetoric.

TROLL

114 posted on 08/30/2010 12:53:17 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: tommy k5
but in my objective view I think the gay issue will hurt the conservative party politically until they reconcile with the people they’ve caused so much pain through their anti-gay rhetoric.

These people are "in pain" because they know their behavior is abnormal. Forcing others to accept their mental illness as normal will not erase their own guilty feelings.

The great thing about America is not our conservative or liberal tradition, but rather our tradition of compromise

The Founding Fathers did not compromise. The penalty in Virginia when Jefferson was Governor was death. Homosexuality is a damaging behavior. It damages those who practice it mentally and physically. Their health problems are legion. Fortunately we no longer have laws against it as there IS mental health available. However America does not give special rights based on deviant behavior. We DON'T compromise morality.

More importantly they are humans.

With mental health issues. That is not a thing to be approved and glorified.

Our history is littered with gay humans who have greatly advanced our evolution.

Homosexuality is an evolutionary dead end. Homosexual behavior is also a killer. Their lifestyle KILLS.

When the bible is used to justify hatred, we only repeat our past.

No one on FR has ever used the Bible to spread hatred. It is not a book of hatred. It IS a book that talks about sin and overcoming sin.

We only repeat our past? How about repeating Rome's past? They allowed immoral degeneracy and collapsed from within. No outside force could defeat them. Deviancy from within rotted them.

115 posted on 08/30/2010 1:02:37 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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