See, now even you are confusing "native citizen" with "natural-born citizen."
Here's the crux of my question:
Birthers claim that in the Minor case, Justice Waite defined NBC a certain way. Uncle Chip said that Waite's definition made NBC a synonym for "native." And yet birthers also claim there's a difference between NBC and just "native citizen," based on wording in WKA. If NBC means the same as "native," I don't see how "native citizen" can mean something else again. I'm hoping one of you can clear this up.
I think you’re being deliberately confusing. Clear it up yourself.
No, I explained that native-born was considered the same as natural-born according to Vattel's definition. It was not just solely based on jus soli (cool pun too). Read it.
"The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens."
Vattels says natives OR natural-born citizens. He's using these terms interchangeably. Remove the natural-born citizen clause.
"The natives are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens."
Do you understand?? To be a native of a country, you still have to have be born jus sanguinis as well as jus soli. Both factors apply.
Today, as in the 21st century, Americans have been dumbed down into thinking to be native simply means to have jus soli birth, but that's not the legal definition used by the Supreme Court. Let's read Waite's paraphrase of Vattel.
"... all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens ..."
Do you understand yet?? Let's read it WIHTOUT the NBC clause ...
" ... all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives ... as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."
So, according to both Vattel (common law) and the SCOTUS (U.S. law), to be a native, you have to be born in a country of parents who are citizens. The inverse reads that if born in a country of parents who are not citizens, you are an alien or foreigner. The only 'confusing' aspect of this is why people don't understand that you have to have citizen parents to be a native or natural born citizen. It's pretty simple.