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To: Mr Rogers

We are citizens, Mr. Rogers, not subjects. We are, each of us, sovereigns of the United States of America. In no way, shape, or manner, are any of us subjects of the Federal Government. The Federal Government gets its power from us, the people.

We the people have inalienable rights from God. We willingly vote in representatives to govern in our name, and grant power to the government.

NOTE: people have rights; the government and individual states are granted power by the will of the people.

We are NOT SUBJECTS. I dare you to find that word, “subject”, in either the U.S. Declaration of Independence or the U.S. Constitution!


183 posted on 08/25/2010 10:57:41 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll

Yes. We are citizens, not subjects, because citizen is a more appropriate description. Thus NB citizen rather than NB subject - as the Supreme Court said, the change was due to the change in the type of government, not because a change in the essential meaning.

If you have construed anything I wrote as meaning we are subjects of the federal government, then you are being intellectually dishonest. At no time have I ever suggested we are subjects of the federal government.

As for WKA: it is excruciatingly clear that they used a two prong argument, based on the meaning of NBC and then based on the 14th Amendment. They didn’t spend half of their argument showing WKA met the qualifications of NBS and thus NBC as a historical review, or to set up a new term of native citizen, which is really just another term used in the 1800s for someone born a citizen.

You don’t have to believe me. You can believe every court and every state and every member of Congress who has looked at it...or you can believe Internet posters who can’t convince a court to even look at their claims, let alone take them to a ruling.

Do as you wish, but there is a reason only 1 court has ever bothered to address birther claims while all the others tossed out the cases - and it isn’t because the black helicopters made them do so!


197 posted on 08/26/2010 6:23:51 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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