[Mr Rogers]

Vattel didn’t even use the phrase “natural born citizen”. He used natives, or indigenous...not NBC. It wasn’t until 1797 that a translation of Vattel was made that substituted NBC...

[jamese777]

Vattel didn’t even use the phrase “natural born citizen”. He used natives, or indigenous...not NBC. It wasn’t until 1797 that a translation of Vattel was made that substituted NBC...

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Emmerich de Vattel was a native born citizen of Switzerland and his international legal treatiste, “Droit des gens; ou, Principes de la loi naturelle appliqués à la conduite et aux affaires des nations et des souverains” or in English, “The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law Applied to the Conduct and to the Affairs of Nations and of Sovereigns.” has no impact on actual US law.

Strict constructionist conservatives don’t depend on international law books for their points of view, the wording of the US Constitution is good enough.

[Ha Ha Thats Very Logical]

Vattel didn’t even use the phrase “natural born citizen”. He used natives, or indigenous

Strictly speaking, of course, he didn't use any of those words. He used "naturels." My command of 18th C. French isn't good enough to know exactly what connotations that may have had. I'd say "native" and "indigenous" were slightly different in modern English usage, and we don't use "the naturals" for much of anything.

[edge919]

Vattel didn’t even use the phrase “natural born citizen”. He used natives, or indigenous...not NBC. It wasn’t until 1797 that a translation of Vattel was made that substituted NBC...

Sorry, but this is a very stupid argument. Vattel was giving a definition for natural citizenship at birth ... it takes no stretch to translate this as natural born citizenship. Second, he's still saying that in order to be a 'native,' you still have to born in the country to citizen parents.