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To: DJ MacWoW

Exactly. They were both guilty, but, you are missing the point. Adam could’ve refused to eat it, but, didn’t. Another point you are missing is that when God created Eve from Adam’s rib, they became one flesh. And, I seriously doubt that their act of disobedience took God by surprise. He knew exactly what was going to happen.

As a result, their eyes were opened to the fact that they were naked. I’m assuming they didn’t have to worry about shopping up until that point. And, the beautiful thing about God is that even though he put them out of the Garden, he also provided clothing to cover their nakedness. (coats of skin) This is also a wonderful spiritual lesson.

No, the Bible doesn’t say she enticed him, it merely states she gave of him to eat, and he willingly did so. The word enticed was my own, because it was Eve who the serpent went to first.

I’ve often wondered what would’ve happened if the devil (serpent) had first gone to Adam. Would the outcome have been different? That’s something we’ll never know, but, it is an interesting train of thought.

The point is that God held both of them culpable for their act. It sounds like the event took place in just a matter of minutes, because once Eve ate, then she gave to Adam to eat. So, yes he was there with her, but, I’ll have to look at another version of the Bible to see if there is something we’re missing here. If Adam was right there by her side when the serpent came upon her and beguiled her, why didn’t he raise an objection immediately? God punished both of them as well as the serpent, who it sounds like walked upright until he beguiled Eve.

And, God told Eve that her husband would rule over her since she was the first one to eat of the forbidden fruit and gave it to Adam.

These are just minor points, but, interesting as well. I guess in my mind, Adam was somewhere in the vicinity, but, not actually standing near Eve when she was offered the fruit. And, you’ll also notice how Adam tried to cop out and totally blame Eve - she was seduced, but, Adam ate it willingly.


88 posted on 08/23/2010 7:35:16 PM PDT by Catsrus (Have)
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To: Catsrus
Exactly. They were both guilty,

Exactly nothing. Eve's action condemned nothing. Adam was the "head". When he ate is when the fall happened. Not before.

Adam could’ve refused to eat it, but, didn’t.

And when he ate is when the sin was committed.

Another point you are missing is that when God created Eve from Adam’s rib, they became one flesh.

Eve was a part of Adam, not the whole. She was not yet created when Adam was given the garden and named creation. It was given to him. As she was.

because it was Eve who the serpent went to first.

There is nothing that says that Adam wasn't present.

That’s something we’ll never know, but, it is an interesting train of thought.

It absolutely is. What if Adam had rebuked Eve for eating it, as he should have done, and he did not?

The point is that God held both of them culpable for their act.

Did he? He pronounced a curse on Eve but didn't say why. With Adam, he did.

Genesis 3: 17.

17 To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,

And, God told Eve that her husband would rule over her since she was the first one to eat of the forbidden fruit and gave it to Adam.

Where does it say : since she was the first one to eat of the forbidden fruit and gave it to Adam.?

100 posted on 08/23/2010 8:12:14 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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