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Islamic Center Attracts Protesters on Both Sides
The New York Times ^ | August 22, 2010 | Michael M. Grynbaum

Posted on 08/22/2010 1:35:02 PM PDT by American Number 181269513

Two protests on Sunday morning, in the normally quiet blocks north of Ground Zero, claimed to be on the side of tolerance. One camp stood in favor of the mosque and Islamic center that has been proposed for the area; the other argued against.

Around 500 of those opposed gathered in a cordoned-off area, heavily monitored by police. They sang patriotic songs and spoke of a hijacked Constitution, a renegade presidency and tolerance toward the sensitivities of New Yorkers whose relatives died in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

A counterprotest, smaller but equally passionate, gathered steam two blocks away, where about 200 people chanted that tolerance should be directed toward members of different religions, and that the values of the Constitution supported their side of the argument.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; ground; groundzeromosque; islam; islamkills; jihadinamerica; mosque; murderousmuzzies; muslims; muzziebaseatgrndzero; obama; palin; september11; terrorism; triumphaltower; victorymosque; zero
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To: hoosiermama
Author needs to go back to school and learn to count numbers higher than ten.It is highly likely that the 'author' didn't count anything. He was 'given' the figures by management.

They have a sliding scale. Multiply times 10 for groups we support, divide by 10 for groups we don't.

21 posted on 08/22/2010 2:08:09 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: La Lydia
Amazing considering how Ted Olson's wife died.

As you say it is amazing. For as you will know, but to refresh for others, the swines murdered her.

Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon, 9/11. Phone messages were said to have been made to Theodore (Ted) Olson, by her, before her death. Doctor Phil seems to have dropped his little catch phrase these days. One could respectfully say to Theodore.

What! what were yew thinkin....?

22 posted on 08/22/2010 2:15:45 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: marstegreg

Wouldn’t that be amazing


23 posted on 08/22/2010 2:17:17 PM PDT by mel
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To: Red_Devil 232

That 75 protesting didn’t look to impressive either if you get my drift, well they looked like losers


24 posted on 08/22/2010 2:19:17 PM PDT by mel
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To: American Number 181269513

P.S.

From the photo, I just noticed there was a barrier all of you were cowering behind. Not good. There were more of you than them. You should have stormed the place. Why didn’t you? Cold feet?


25 posted on 08/22/2010 2:21:04 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: mel

I’m trying to understand how a religion that celebrates and propegates mass murder and acts of war towards us believes it has ANY rights under the constitution. I’m also having a hard time understanding a President who feels that they have those rights as well. .


26 posted on 08/22/2010 2:23:30 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: American Number 181269513

Thank you thank you thank you.


27 posted on 08/22/2010 2:29:48 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: American Number 181269513
"the mosque and Islamic center that has been proposed"

funny, NY Times hack did not get the memo: it's no longer to be referred to as a mosque at all but as a "community center with a prayer room"

that's the latest output from the empty headed surrender monkeys of the left
28 posted on 08/22/2010 2:30:59 PM PDT by Enchante ("The great enemy of clear language is insincerity." -- George Orwell --)
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To: American Number 181269513

The man-child is at a minimum a Muslim wannabe (or Wahabe):

• His biological father was a Muslim.
http://www.bing.com/reference/semhtml/?title=Barack_Obama%2C_Sr.&src=abop&qpvt=barack+obama+seniot&q=barack+obama+senior&fwd=1

• Because his biological father was a Muslim the Islam world thinks he is a Muslim.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2010/08/obama_is_a_muslim_18_24_or.html?hpid=topnews
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/

• His stepfather was a Muslim.
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/

• As a child Barry was enrolled in school as a Muslim in Jakarta Indonesia. An Indonesian Madrasa.
• Barack Hussein Obama’s first and middle names are Arabic Muslim names.
Barack was the name for Mohammad’s horse. Husein, enough said.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700246419/Barack-Muhammads-horse.html
http://sanooaung.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/will-be-obama-with-us-muslims-as-the-meaning-of-his-name-in-persian-language/

• Obama recited the opening lines of the Muslim call to prayer, which includes a vow of fidelity to Islam, in flawless Arabic on a radio program. - Nikolos Kristoff, NYTs, 3-06-07 (***this one is a gottcha moment***)
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.3413/pub_detail.asp
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/11679

• On that same program he said he thinks the call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on earth.”
http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/obama-muslim-call-to-prayer-one-of-the-prettiest-sounds-on-earth/
http://caosblog.com/archives/7373

• Obama belonged to Rev. Wright’s (a former Muslim) church for twenty years. Many congregants are Muslims.
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/04/07/jeremiah-wright-former-muslim/
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/03/20/rev-wright-got-his-masters-degree-in-islam-in-west-africa/
http://endtimes.yuku.com/forum/viewtopic/id/289

• Obama’s said that the U.S. is “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/9959057/Barack_Hussein_Obama_US_one_of_the_largest_Muslim_countries_in_the_world/
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/06/obama_america_one_of_the_large_1.asp

• Obama holds Muslim celebrations in the WH but canceled the National Day of Prayer.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1724544/obama_cancels_national_day_of_prayer.html?cat=9
http://www.exposeobama.com/

• President Obama’s religious adviser, Eboo Patel, once deemed the United States “the ideal place for the renewal of Islam.”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html

• Obama does not give gifts on Christmas.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/12035.html

• Obama doesn’t celebrate his birthday.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/a-tough-birthday-for-obama/

• Obama falsely attributes Muslim participation in the founding of America.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.7041/pub_detail.asp
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.7041/pub_detail.asp

• Obama required that the cross be covered when he gave a speech at Notre Dame.
http://blog.acton.org/archives/9843-notre-dame-georgetown-and-president-obama.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/11/opinion/main5006203.shtml
http://dougpowers.com/2009/04/17/obamas-jesus-coverup/

• Christian symbol covered up during Obama’s Georgetown speech
http://myfaithspace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/obama-covers-christ-and-cross
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=46667

• Obama’s first major speech in office was a “Muslim outreach” speech in Cairo Egypt.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-at-Cairo-University-6-04-09/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8083171.stm

• “The American President told me in confidence that he is a Muslim,” said Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit on Nile TV.
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/06/12/bombshell-egyptian-foreign-minister-ahmed-aboul-gheit-says-on-egyptian-tv-%e2%80%9cthe-american-president-told-me-in-confidence-that-he-is-still-a-muslim-%e2%80%9d/
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=166905

• Obama gave strong support to the Cordoba House community center and mosque to be built at the Ground Zero site of Sep. 11, 2001 at a dinner celebrating the day’s end of the first day of Ramadan at the WH.
http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/president-obama-supports-ground-zero-mosque/19593492?ncid=webmail

• Obama tasked NASA with a mission of “Muslim outreach.”
http://technology.newsplurk.com/2010/07/nasa-and-islam.html

• Obama referred to his faith as “my Muslim faith” gaffe in an interview with George Stephanopolous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I

• Pushes Islamic freedom of religion but not Jewish or Christian freedoms. Several weeks ago he told Israel NOT to build settlements in East Jerusalem. But OK to build that Mosque at Ground Zero.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/7514285/Israel-spits-in-Obamas-eye-by-announcing-new-settlements-in-east-Jerusalem.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/24/barack-obama-israel-settlement-plan

DO NOT HATE ME BECAUSE I TELL YOU THE TRUTH. THAT WOULD MAKE YOU A HATER.
DEBATE THE FACTS. I KNOW TO BE A KNEE-JERK LIBERAL YOU ALWAYS GO AFTER THE PERSON WITH THE ARUMENT AND NOT THE SUBJECT.

We know one other thing. He is losing the Jewish vote everyday. One term(if that) and done.


29 posted on 08/22/2010 2:31:56 PM PDT by cruise_missile
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To: American Number 181269513

Lets see, theres a cresent on the site of the Pennsylvania crash. Theres a mosque inside the Pentagon now. All they need is the mosque at the ground zero site and they have their conquers all marked.


30 posted on 08/22/2010 2:37:52 PM PDT by Dewey Revoltnow (Worst. Community. Organizer. Ever!)
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To: mel
would you dare build a house 2 blocks from them.

And ask them for the money to fly around the world collecting money to build that house.

31 posted on 08/22/2010 3:00:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: mel
please tell us more about the general feelings you got there. Thank

Tennessee. There was a woman from The Great State of Tennessee who spoke at the rally and who I think said all that needed to be said. A brave and courageous woman ( her name escapes me at the moment) who rocked the crowd when she said that "Islam is not a religion, it’s a geo-political military movement."

The general feelings at this event were not good. It’s hard to describe what not good means as you stand on a corner for over three hours on a Sunday in August staring at a space were several buildings were destroyed and almost 3000 people were killed, some I knew. What’s equally hard to describe is the feeling of contemplating why they died but you know they died because they represented freedom; they died because they were American.

Of course, now the ideology that sent the 9/11 murderers (Islam) is seeking to firmly establish its dominance in New York City. It’s openly doing so by setting up its victory mosque a headstone away from ground zero and only 500 to 2000 people show up to stop it.

No matter. The overall crowd was peaceful but determined and angry. This is the good part because we need to get determined and angry in order to preserve our freedom and way of life.

32 posted on 08/22/2010 3:09:44 PM PDT by American Number 181269513 (Change before you have to)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
You should have stormed the place. Why didn’t you? Cold feet?

What good would that have done? It is against the law.

A much better idea would be to move in and say you are a HOMESTEADER.

33 posted on 08/22/2010 3:10:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Dewey Revoltnow

Is the flight 93 memorial still going to be a red cresent?


34 posted on 08/22/2010 3:17:16 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Here we protest first then we let the will of the people handle things if need be.


35 posted on 08/22/2010 3:21:05 PM PDT by American Number 181269513 (Change before you have to)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
You should have stormed the place. Why didn’t you? Cold feet?

What are you talking about?? Storm what place - to what end?

36 posted on 08/22/2010 3:42:30 PM PDT by don-o (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: don-o

“What are you talking about?? Storm what place - to what end?”

I cannot describe to you or share with you experiences you have never been through.


37 posted on 08/22/2010 3:50:57 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: American Number 181269513

Interesting, the liberal media is reporting 500 at the Ground Zero protest and Fox News said it was over 1,000, and it sure as heck looked like over 1,000, and for the counter-protest the liberal media is saying 200 and Fox News says about 75. Seems to me Fox News has a better record on accuracy then the Lame Stream Media does, so I’ll go with their figure.


38 posted on 08/22/2010 3:51:38 PM PDT by Ballygrl
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Oh. Excuse me.

But, you suggested storming some place - I assume in NYC. What is that all about?


39 posted on 08/22/2010 3:55:33 PM PDT by don-o (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: American Number 181269513

“Here we protest first then we let the will of the people handle things if need be.”

Exactly. Let the other guy do it while others sit on their butts. Call in the blue helmets.

That was not a barrier I saw in the photo. It was chicken wire.


40 posted on 08/22/2010 3:56:53 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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