[dcwusmc]

I hate to bust your fine rant, but you totally misread cothrige’s post. It’s NOT that we so much provoked the Mooselimbs as that we kept coddling the worst of them, the Saudis, by buying their oil instead of developing our own resources, by treating them as good people when they are NOT and by totally underestimating and misreading the level of hate from the Mohammedans toward us and the west, even though we’ve had much evidence over the years. Do you suppose it was helpful to OUR cause to see pics of W walking hand in hand with a Saudi prince on his ranch? Or refusing to do anything besides bloviate after the Cole attack? No, we overlooked and ignored much and it came back to bite us in the butt big time. What do we do next? I don’t know for sure. It’s apparent that we cannot go on appeasing them. It has never worked and won’t at all. Do we nuke them? What do we do? Keeping in mind there are a billion or so of them.

[dcwusmc]

Correction, it was Clinton who bloviated after the Cole attack. I didn’t intend that it look as if I were blaming W. He did enough on his own without adding Clinton’s sins to his.

[cothrige]

Well put. As I see it we have made mistake after mistake, and are making more as we speak. Every time the moment arises to react with purpose and strength against the aggression of Islam, what do we do? Bend over and suck up. It really does make me sick. We couldn't drill for oil in our own reserves, and now Obama has stopped drilling offshore. Money, money and more money to our buddies in Saudi Arabia. Clinton had chances to get bin Laden, and didn't do it. He had attacks to respond to, and didn't, or at least not effectively or with courage. What did America under Clinton actually do to respond to the obviously mounting hostility of these people, to use the term very loosely, and by doing that avoid the inevitable on 9/11? Effectively nothing. And while after 9/11 Bush did do better he wasn't really much better. We still funnelled billions of dollars to the arabs, and he even allowed a rather shocking number of people with potential connections to bin Laden to leave the US after the WTC attacks just because he wanted to please the Saudis. And to see him walking, hand in hand with that Saudi prince like he was his girlfriend, that just about made me sick physically. It was the perfect image of how America treats her enemies and why we were so vulnerable to attack in the first place.

And then there is Israel and Iran. Here we are, sitting back waiting to see if tiny little Israel, the only nation in the Middle East that doesn't have a holiday dedicated to our destruction, will do something we don't like to Iran. We are throwing Israel, our only real allies over their, under the bus because we want to suck up to who? Muslims! Un-frickin-believable. And people tell me about weakness and softness. You want soft, look at our foreign policy and there it is. This is what America does about Islam and terrorism. In the future when more attacks come down I won't hesitate to hang responsibility right where it belongs. People can say I blame America all they want, but until we admit the facts we cannot fix anything, and really do what needs to be done.