Posted on 08/20/2010 8:46:25 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
...and then some union boss somewhere will get a huge payoff, and suddenly it will be the “humanitarian” thing to do...
Between now and the next 2 years.
All it will take to stop this is for every concrete company within 100 miles to refuse to sell them concrete. That’s it. They can always import labor to build their building, but they can’t import concrete.
Those kinds of pics make me really mad. Why do we just let them do this? I hate political correctness...
Maybe some of those fat democrats can take a few days off from making oppressive law, and go pick up a shovel... We, the working people, sure as hell wont - let the damn liberal elites build the mosque if they must.
That is just so wrong on so many levels. Interesting how you connect dem and union leader ruling style - besides just a ‘money’ thing.
Obliquely, it is interesting to me how many Congressional R’s have actually DONE something in the private sector, compared to their D brethren, who largely are part of the governing class from day one.
Just made me think, perhaps this same dynamic is reflected between military brass and rank and file? Seems quite a bit of the top military echelon is quite political and not necessarily in the best interest of the nation or troops.
The Ft. Hood evaluation document seems to reflect this position.
“Still to this day the muslims are praying towards a bunch of bacon and they do not know.”
Looks like folks have had just about enough...
101ORD, that was a most eloquent defense of what Unions could and should be, contrasted with the ugly reality.
Thanks for that.
Is it beyond hope that Unionists could act to take back the Unions from the political machine they have become?
Doesn’t the European Guild system work more towards the ideal?
Once done, they will disappear into the woodworksleeper cells.
Fixed.
Guarantee Obama will be helping black owned businesses (BOBs) to put in bids on the work...I can see him licking his chops to further divide the country by race. Blacks will likely do the work where whites won’t. Anyone know the stats on this list of hardhats and whether any blacks are signing on, or are we ignoring that?
I am not pro-union, but you do bring up a valid point on minimum technical qualifications. I have had to check control wiring at industrial construction sites. This has been at sites that have been union shop and non union shop. Keeping things objective, I prefer to have a union electrician out there. I have gotten along well with various IBEW locals, and have been involved in some of their technical training. My dispute is with the national leadership, not with the rank and file.
Note most of these union protests about the Ground Zero Victory Mosque are by the rank and file. IBEW Local 3, which covers NYC, is a very tough local to deal with, but I can see them backing the rank and file on this. What position national is going to take, I don’t know, but Local 3 could likely tell national to sod off.
You have to understand the power and influence of labor unions in NYC. One simply cannot build so much as a shed on Manhattan (or any of the boroughs) without unions. Period.
The union workers there are, in the main, the salt of the earth. The union leaders, on the other hand, tend to have “family” connections. If the latter don’t approve, you won’t see the building work even begin.
It will be interesting, too, to see how NYC government bureaucrats can tie up the paperwork on this project ad infinitum.
Well I hope the Local does tell them to sod off. Also glad to generate some discussion on unions. They’ve become such a dirty machine, that I think it is easy to forget the good aspects of the technical skilled trade unions.
If change comes to organizational structure and operations, I think it will have to come from the rank and file. If change does not come, I think Unions will go the way of the dodo bird. The costs are too great and unions are spending way too much member money on lobbying, rather than paying into pension funds.
To head off any "offensive" gestures by critics, the muzzies will successfully pressure city officials to create a 1000-foot cordon around the al-Osama Mosque and Victory Center, to preclude the establishment of any un-Islamic businesses.
I would love to see those muzzies try that $hit in China. The Chinese would round up all of those worthless fools and shoot them at dawn, and not look back!
We have become too soft.
I foresee mobst...er...union thugs breaking a lot of knees caps should this end up being done without union labor.
This is one time I’m really conflicted, it’s so hard to root for union gorillas, but the alternative is even worse.
0bama will order the Army Corp of Engineers to build it.
When their union masters get the command from Bloomberg and zero to git ‘er done, they’ll jump as high as required.
Considering the close proximity to reported CIA Operational training schools, the construction of the mosque near Ground Zero is a little like the American National Socialist Party attempting to build a Headquarters, training and convention center 2 blocks away from FBI schools in Quantico in about 1954. I wonder what the intel community thinks about the movement and if they haven’t considered hijacking it from the getgo so they could control the entire affair. Might not be such a bad intel source, provided it was working for the right side.
Can someone verify that blacks are part of the HardHats, meaning, have signed on to the pledge to not build? If not, Obama will make it a wedge issue and get minority owned businesses special contracts to do the work. You know he’s separating the races purposely.
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