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To: StrangeFeathers

Weird stuff going on. Ann is committing career suicide.
Also, I was not at all aware that Ubanga’s likely foreign birth “has been disproved by my newspaper, human events, also sweetness & light, american spectator and national review etc, etc etc”. Is that true? Somebody has demonstrated for sure no doubt about it that Ubamga was born in Hawaii? That’s news to me.


10 posted on 08/19/2010 10:57:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
That’s news to me.

News to me, too. I saw some discussion on National Review/The Corner a long time ago, but it was the usual shoddy, superficial MSM-type treatment.

I did quick searches of the sources she mentioned. Here's what I found on Sweetness & Light:

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hawaii-declares-obama-birth-cert-real

I hope Ann was referring to something more substantive.

45 posted on 08/19/2010 11:39:58 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Lancey Howard
I was not at all aware that Ubanga’s likely foreign birth “has been disproved by my newspaper, human events, also sweetness & light, american spectator and national review etc, etc etc”. Is that true?

Due to lack of any real evidence, they resort to the traditional course of rhetoric which is ridicule. Outside of that, the two primary arguments are
(1) Why didn't the Clinton's bring it up since they would surely have the goods if any were to be had.
(2) The birth announcements in the local papers.

The reason why The Establishment likes these arguments is because they have been largely left alone by the Birthers. In the case of the Clinton argument, the presupposition are that the Clinton Machine is omniscient, that the Clintons are only about the Clintons, and that there would be some benefit to the Clintons by releasing documents detrimental to Barry's career.

These presuppositions, are not challenged by the Birthers, yet are very easy targets. By the mere fact that Barry, a true cipher, is in office should be more than adequate proof that the Clintons are not omniscient and are highly dependent on a machine that they don't control. It would be easy to point this out by simply asking the anti-Birther this question: "Who has more power, Soros, Clinton or Soetoro?" The pause before the answer should be more than ample in demonstrating the point.

The second argument they make is that the only two reasons why there would be a birth announcement in the Hawaiian papers would be either Occam's Razor - that Barry was indeed born in Hawaii, or that before Barry was born The Machine was planning on Barry assuming the Presidency. This latter argument is supposed to make Birthers look stupid since it creates a false notion that there are only two choices. Birthers should ask the mocker who was Barry's maternal grandmother. What was her career and social standing? Considering the social norms of that era, it would be very embarrassing for a VP of a bank to have to admit that her grandson was born in that third world Hellhole Kenya to her kook daughter and communist agitprop "father".

I can just as easily propose that Stanley Ann called mom about the birth, and mom said "get your ass back home on the first flight - I'm wiring you money for a ticket right now." The announcement in the paper reflects a grandmother who is conscious of social standards. Remember, this was the era when wayward daughters were "vacationing out in the country" so that she wouldn't be parading around town with very visible evidence of fornication. (yes, I know she was married at the time) That scenario fits much, much better in what we know about Barry's first few years of life.

I think the problem with those in the Establishment Media is that Ann, Rush, Beck et al, are concerned about their careers. If Dr. Laura can lose her gig over a word that is rather commonplace but has been made taboo by the Unseen Hand, then surely being an outspoken "birther" can also get you shuffled off to having your voice heard only on a minor internet blog.

119 posted on 08/20/2010 6:24:39 AM PDT by The Theophilus
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To: Lancey Howard
Somebody has demonstrated for sure no doubt about it that Ubamga was born in Hawaii? That’s news to me.
News to me to.

What's happening to Coulter? I like her a lot but she appears to be losing it. Why?

129 posted on 08/20/2010 8:23:22 AM PDT by samtheman
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