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New climate computer model released
UPI ^ | 8/19/2010

Posted on 08/19/2010 5:39:29 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: markomalley

Remember those models we built as kids. We know they weren’t real but it was fun to pretend they were..............


21 posted on 08/19/2010 5:59:44 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: markomalley

Remember those models we built as kids. We know they weren’t real but it was fun to pretend they were..............


22 posted on 08/19/2010 6:00:00 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: markomalley

I bet they based their model on NASA satellite temperature readings


23 posted on 08/19/2010 6:01:18 PM PDT by fso301
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To: markomalley

I wish they would develop a “computer model” that would accurately tell us what the weather is going to be like tomorrow.


24 posted on 08/19/2010 6:03:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Taliban!)
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To: cripplecreek

We are in the Progressive Dark Ages. Science is toast.


25 posted on 08/19/2010 6:07:04 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: markomalley

How many months of the year does the new model predict temperatures of the Great Lakes to be above 600 degrees F?


26 posted on 08/19/2010 6:09:32 PM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: markomalley

You nailed it. Bump!


27 posted on 08/19/2010 6:11:34 PM PDT by upchuck (Unemployment benefits -- the NEW Welfare.)
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To: markomalley

Remember those models we built as kids. We know they weren’t real but it was fun to pretend they were..............


28 posted on 08/19/2010 6:15:47 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: markomalley

Oh, wonderful, yet another discrete model of a continuous non-linear dynamical system.


29 posted on 08/19/2010 6:18:39 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: markomalley
Models can say a lot of things. Actual data interpreted through established principles come to stronger conclusions.

No Smoking Hot Spot (The Australian)

That article takes Greenhouse Theory at face value and by the criterion set up in the theory itself finds no evidence of warming on the basis of greenhouse effect.

The Hidden Flaw in Greenhouse Theory

Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics

Harvard astrophysicist dismisses AGW theory, challenges peers to 'take back climate science'

It Is Impossible For A 100 ppm Increase In Atmospheric CO2 Concentration To Cause Global Warming

Those four articles each show that Greenhouse Theory has no basis in reality due to a direct conflict with the known laws of physics. No wonder the smoking gun "hotspot" can't be found.

Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

That article pretty much puts the kibosh on any serious trend of planetary warming from any cause. Think about it. If there is absolutely no sign at all of rising sea levels how could the planet be warming? Beyond the centuries long slow warming of the earth and rising of the seas of course. But that is only a few millimeters per century due to the inter-glacial period we are in.

30 posted on 08/19/2010 6:18:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: fso301
I bet they based their model on NASA satellite temperature readings

Heh, no doubt.

Who wants to bet that those terrestrial weather stations are still bolted to the sides of rooftop A/C units and such, too.

31 posted on 08/19/2010 6:19:27 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BBell; ...
markomalley: "the old model didn't give the results they want. What to do? Change the model."

Bingo.
The new model's advanced capabilities will help scientists shed new light on some of the critical mysteries of global warming, researchers say.
Thanks markomalley.
 
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32 posted on 08/19/2010 6:19:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: markomalley

Remember those models we built as kids. We know they weren’t real but it was fun to pretend they were..............


33 posted on 08/19/2010 6:21:05 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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"biogeochemistry"

Any chaos in that?

34 posted on 08/19/2010 6:24:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: The_Reader_David
Discrete models can in fact work well for non-linear continuous systems. That's not the real issue. The real issue is that
(a) they use climate sensitivities to CO2 which are 200-300% larger than values independently calculated from the physics,
(b) they ignore the variations in the sun's effect,
(c) they can't model clouds and cloud formation accurately, which is a big problem since clouds block most of the incoming energy from the sun during the day, and trap heat at night.
35 posted on 08/19/2010 6:43:59 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Paladin2; SunkenCiv

I make up better words than that.


36 posted on 08/19/2010 6:44:29 PM PDT by bigheadfred (apoplectic purple)
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To: markomalley

GIGO


37 posted on 08/19/2010 7:01:20 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: Raycpa

bump


38 posted on 08/19/2010 7:02:43 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: markomalley
Here's the current image of the Sun:


You may notice something missing...

39 posted on 08/19/2010 7:07:15 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

No spots?


40 posted on 08/19/2010 7:08:43 PM PDT by Raebie
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