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To: johnnycap
Without taking the time to critique other dogmatic assumptions in your post I will deal with one big assumption you make.

You are trying to make a case that because someone thought their religious views justified thinking blacks are lesser humans by birth, (the Bible says all men are of one blood and does not mention the word race), that the norming of homosexuality and the redefinition of marriage is justified.

If you want to redefine marriage as not between a man and a woman, but between 'two individuals', then I would like to know why you would not approve of the marriage between 4 individuals or between a baker's dozen of enlightened individuals?

Even you would draw the line somewhere I assume?

Please don't be shallow in your explanation, and don't be a hypocrite who is wanting to create the perception that fifteen people who want to get married as one cluster and demand moral justification are a 'less legitimate social class'.

99 posted on 08/19/2010 7:55:22 AM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: Old Landmarks

If you want to redefine marriage as not between a man and a woman, but between ‘two individuals’, then I would like to know why you would not approve of the marriage between 4 individuals or between a baker’s dozen of enlightened individuals?

You know, I never have really delved into that question and its a darned good one. Where does it end? When it comes to children and animals, the answer is easy: The state has already drawn a line around the abilty to consent and the age of such consent. The same holds true when speaking about the mentally handicapped.

However, when it comes to consenting adults in full possession of faculty, what happens to polygamy? Well, we know the Bible has many examples of men with many wives (but none of women with many husbands as far as I know). You will see from my other posts on this thread that I really do not believe marriage should be redefined as anything but a union between one man and one woman. Where it gets tricky is if you do substitute state recognized marriage for state recognized civil or domestic unions or partnerships. Is that two people or more? Well, if it is a pure contract, then many many people can be involved. A private limited partnership can have hundreds of individuals if not thousands.

I think if you follow this line of thinking, what would eventually end up happening is that the government would draw the line on true focused commitment and practicality at a certain number (for tradition’s sake and for trying to get my head around it, I would definitely prefer just two). However, wherever that number might land, once over the limit that is adopted for a domestic partnership, any who seek additional numbers would be classified as something else like an LLC, LLP etc.

That’s my best guess...there could be years of discussion on just this topic alone.

That’s all I got on that one.


114 posted on 08/19/2010 8:27:51 AM PDT by johnnycap
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