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To: Just mythoughts
I know there is greater cause than 'we the people' for which WHY we are the greatest most blessed nation in all of recorded history. IT is NOT my dogma, all one need do is spend a bit of time reviewing the literal historical record wherein any 'self' governing society that turn their back on the 'manual' survived for any length of time...

We are the greatest because we are the ONLY place on earth where Jews & Gentiles, Chistians & Pagans (and just about any other combination ...) live in relative harmony with each other because our system of government does NOT prefer any one over the other!

It is a pagan god that has no morals or authority that usurps authority never given but taken through deception that attempts to produce Nirvana here on earth.

That is actually an argument that SUPPORTS my position!

You are correct the Creator is not going to force anyone to LOVE, HONOR, and OBEY His commands during this flesh journey.... That is and will always be the GOD given freedom of each and every individual... Judgment day though there will be no lusting flesh it will all be with full knowledge as to how each and every one of us make an informed decision.

No arguments from me on that point!

253 posted on 08/19/2010 11:31:27 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
We are the greatest because we are the ONLY place on earth where Jews & Gentiles, Chistians & Pagans (and just about any other combination ...) live in relative harmony with each other because our system of government does NOT prefer any one over the other!

I have been busy today and have not had opportunity to read the rest of posts made on this thread. So I apologize up front IF I repeat any other posts.

Your claim above is result of what got set in motion long ago, because it was stated from our beginning that there are unalienable RIGHTs *LIFE* *LIBERTY* *PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS* endowed by the Creator that NO man/government can take or (give).

The state was by design 'we the people' not a state or 'god' that decided by their supreme decision what is or is not endowed by the Creator that is *LIFE* *LIBERTY* or *PURSUIT of HAPPINESS*... The state cannot put into print what is obscene, they claim they know it when they see it and a crucifix in urine is protected art. Some of these perverse minds have no problem putting on 'we the people' the burden to fund some of this hogwash.

IT is the state - or some peoples 'god' that is usurping power and authority to claim the word marriage can include two males or two females... That is the height of perversion and against what the Creator established and it will not stand for long.

See now personally speaking I could care less what people do behind closed doors, but this is NOT what this discussion has deteriorated down to, it is NOW the state playing god by changing the very meanings of words. AND in the California case ruling against the very foundation that set in motion the preservation of maintaining all 'rights' for each and every individual... the will of the people.

Where is the *LIFE*, the *LIBERTY* or even the *PURSUIT of HAPPINESS* in the homosexual lifestyle.... but hey it is their choice for short termed good time but they can at least quit their belly aching, muck rolling, and demanding the rest of US approve of their perverse flesh lifestyles as if it is normal and should be add to the list of RIGHTS.

I keep hearing/reading that Darwin theory is about the survival of the fittest.... so then given this educational doctrine, why is the political side of a functioning society playing god in protecting activity that obviously is unfit to survive all on its own.

435 posted on 08/19/2010 9:57:36 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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