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What's In a Name? (Vanity)
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Posted on 08/18/2010 1:18:24 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui

Satan was known to the ancient Hebrews as "Lightening from Heaven" which later evolved into "Lucifer" or "Light Bearer". Lightening (falling from) Heavens"!? In the New Testament Jesus said it in Luke- I beheld Satan as lightening from heaven, or falling from heaven.

How do those words sound in Hebrew?

> From Strong's Hebrew Dictionary, word number 1299 a primitive root word: lightening, cast forth, falling

BARAQ pronounced BAW-RAWK

And word number 1300, BARAQ, means lightening.

Satan has fallen from the heights or Heavens. The Hebrew word used for heights or heavens is Strong's Hebrew Word 1116. BAM MAH. to be high, heights, heavens.

It is pronounced: BAM-MAW.

The Hebrew U or O, is a conjunction to join words together. So to join in Hebrew the concept of lightening "falling from" heaven or the heights, BARAQ O BAM MAH would mean Lightening from Heaven.

So, if spoken by a Jew back then, "I beheld Satan" would have been- "Baraq O Bammah".


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To: Charles Henrickson
Okay, I'll try one more time and see if I can make this as concise as I can.
Look in any standard Hebrew lexicon, and under beth-resh-kaph you will find "bless" (and the related concept, "kneel"), while under beth-resh-qoph you will find "lightning."
I agree. The first two consonants are the same. And yet despite having different ending consonants both words sound almost the same.
Hebrew phonology
The phoneme /k/ is represented by two letters: kaf (כ) and quf (ק). Although Modern Hebrew pronunciation does not differentiate between the two, the latter was once pronounced more deeply, like the Arabic /q/.

Being as both words are so similar did one come before the other and derive from the first making one word a root of the other or are they both root words?
Language Log
The Hebrew spelling (if not the English transliteration) still reveals the historical root because of the orthographic difference between kaf (כ) and quf (ק). Thus Ehud Barak's last name is spelled with a quf (בָּרָק). (Interestingly, Barak didn't always have a name evoking lightning; he was born Ehud Brog and switched to "Barak" when he was drafted into the Israel Defense Forces.)
And if they're both root words then what do you say of the last two sentence in the link above about Ehud Barak's name being associated to lightning?

61 posted on 08/18/2010 11:50:33 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Nice work, Rumplestilskin...


62 posted on 08/19/2010 9:55:25 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui (consciousness is a heads up display)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
Nice work, Rumplestilskin...
What?! It's a strange name so I looked it up.
63 posted on 08/19/2010 10:10:36 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Charles Henrickson
ברק אובמה Barack Obama
אֵהוּד בָּרָק Ehud Barak

Try as I might I can't find anything anywhere that has the name Barak/Barack ending in anything other than a quf (ק).

64 posted on 08/20/2010 2:58:29 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Besides, who would name their child "knee"? ברך

Barack...ברק
knee...ברך

65 posted on 08/20/2010 3:28:53 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Hebrew (not Aramaic)
Verb - ברך
To kneel;...see 23 for same

Noun - בֶּרֶךְ (aren't names nouns?)
1. (anatomy) knee
2. (in plural) lap

Aramaic - Verb ברך
1. to bless
2. to kneel, to bow

How can you make a verb a name?

66 posted on 08/20/2010 3:48:23 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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I figured that since ya'll got pinged by Chuck ya'll might find the new info in replies 64-66 of interest.
67 posted on 08/20/2010 3:52:36 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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