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To: 240B
Nobody opposes the building of the mosque. The controversy is about the sensitive nature of the location of the mosque

Okay, let me make it it crystal clear. I am defending the specific PRIVATE PROPERTY rights of a specific owner to build, or not build on, a specific piece of land that he her or she purchased legally. If you, on the other hand, want to use for the force of governemnt to selectively prohibit that specific owner from building on his specific land, then we disagree. Do we? Now is is your turn to clarify your remarks.

Your point about the denial of rights to Christians is perfectly true. The best strategy to achieve justice is to emphasize the fight against those violations of private property, not SELECTIVELY EXTEND those violations to others. For example, opponents of the mosque would be far more effective if they focused their efforts on helping the the Greek Orthodox church at ground zero in its fight to build a taller steeple on a specific piece of land. Instead of stressing this hypocrisy, however, they only weaken the case of that church, when they divert the issue into a campaign to selectively violate the private property rights of another specific owner.

Let's use this analogy. Let's say a specific willing seller and buyer in NYC want to build a new Christian church two blocks away from a Muslim cemetery. How would respond to the anti-Church argument that "why do they need to build near Muslim 'sacred ground' since there are thousands of Christians church in New York and they can build elsewhere?"

65 posted on 08/18/2010 7:45:01 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk
Okay, let me make it it crystal clear. I am defending the specific PRIVATE PROPERTY rights of a specific owner to build, or not build on, a specific piece of land that he her or she purchased legally.

But.. you know, you cant build an apartment complex on land that is zoned agricultural, for example. The zoning board in this case buckled under pressure from the multicultural billionaire Mayor-for-Life Bloomberg. If it was doing its job at least 5 or so square blocks should have been rezoned to reflect public desire that this be a "memorial" area.

Given the fact that 61 % of the whole city is against this, and that the city zoning officials were not acting in the interests of its constituents, isnt a protest on those points warranted? ? Sheesh, the whole thing is surreal.

70 posted on 08/18/2010 8:03:29 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Captain Kirk
It seems that what you are advocating is no zoning laws whatsoever? Can I build a pig-farm in Times Square as long as I own the land privately? Although I recognize and acknowledge that private property rights are being usurped by the government, there have to be some rules. And this mosque is an outlier. It is an exceptional case that should be adjudicated in the public interest.

This mosque is going to be, and already is, a huge nuisance to the neighborhood it is in as well as to the city at large. Building this mosque ‘where’ they want to build it is deleterious to the public interest. It should be denied on that basis.

My opinion is that you and I agree more than we disagree and would probably be friends if we worked together.

73 posted on 08/18/2010 8:08:32 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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