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To: kristinn

Since when is a mosque open to non-Muslims? This guy is lying in his teeth (typical for Muslims talking to infidels).


12 posted on 08/17/2010 11:24:43 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: beethovenfan

Good point.


22 posted on 08/17/2010 11:29:04 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: beethovenfan

Yep al-taqiyya.

Lying is a form of service to g-d in Islam.

This is the part that deals with cartured Tali etc:
“The nonbelievers arrested `Ammar Ibn Yasir (RA) and (tortured himuntil) he (RA) uttered foul words about the Prophet (PBUH&HF), andpraised their gods (idols); and when they released him (RA), he (RA)went straight to the Prophet (PBUH&HF).
The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said:
“Is there something on your mind?” `Ammar Ibn Yasir (RA) said: “Bad
(news)! They would not release me until I defamed you (PBUH&HF) and
praised their gods!” The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: “How do you find
your heart to be?” `Ammar (RA) answered: “Comfortable with faith.” So
the Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: “Then if they come back for you, then do
the same thing all over again.” Allah (SWT) at that moment revealed
the verse: “....except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in
faith...[16:106]”


92 posted on 08/17/2010 12:41:43 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: beethovenfan
Since when is a mosque open to non-Muslims? This guy is lying in his teeth (typical for Muslims talking to infidels).

Oh, it's intended to be seen by all kinds of people. This is a leftist project, as much as a muslim project. Funny how the press talks about the Imam but not about his partner. The islamophobic types overlook the progressive left's ivlvement too in their haste to freak out. Look at one of the mosque foundation cofounders- a former Mayor of Aspen Colorado. Near as I can tell he might be a new ager granola crunching lib , not a radical muslim.

When the leftists couldn't get their historic revisionist museum "International Freedom Center" [dedicated to bashing the US for its failings and evil against minorities, etc] started at ground zero back in 2004-5 , the left apparently opted to take this tack and sneak it in via a westernized Sufi islam "multicultural center" instead, knowing that political correctness and religious tolerance would effectively silence opposition to it.

Recall all the western liberals/progresives on board that Gaza strip flotilla boat with the Turkish IHH terrorists that the Israelis boarded? they seem to be related. Recall that one of them was a gal from Code Pink, campaign donation bundler for Obama? I think this Gaza bunch met , along with palestinian activists/Hamas supporters, in a local Christian church in NY before the Gaza flotilla business.

Anyway, the ever present George Soros's Aspen Foundation [which may or may not still be headed by the chairman and CEO of CNN, Waler Isaacson] was involved in the failed 9/11 memorial project called "International Freedom Center" at ground Zero as well as this Cordoba Foundation and the Imam's group ASMA.

The Taliban would be easier to deal with that this weird mix of frootloops.

170 posted on 08/17/2010 8:54:04 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: beethovenfan

This imam hangs around & gives unicorn-and-pixie dust talks to local liberal jewish groups all the time and they apparently gobble it up.

He’s also an associate of an Iranian official who’s made appearances in NY at the UN and in Malaysia where the imam’s other office is.


172 posted on 08/17/2010 9:14:08 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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