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To: HollyB

It’s hard to say what date is printed under the blurred out area. Not sure why they blurred it out. It’s just an issue/expiration date. Kind of strange.

This is a valid passport, and that is why the admin is so willing to show it. But was it based on accurate information? Such as... was it based on his Certificate of Live Birth instead of his long form Birth Certificate which we are yet to see. That is the question and that is where the real debate still stands.


What information from a long form birth certificate is relevant to being a natural born citizen that isn’t on a short form? The US Constitution requires birth in the US, age 35 and 14 years residence in the US.

Do you need to know an attending physician’s name, a birth weight, the parent’s occupations?

Any Court of Law will accept a certified copy of the birth record from the state of Hawaii along with a notarized letter of authentification from the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health and the Registrar of Vital Statistics.
At the bottom of every Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth (short form) it says the following: “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”

The Director of Health, the Governor of Hawaii, and the state Attorney General have all confirmed that Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.


189 posted on 08/17/2010 1:48:40 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Perhaps we would like to see the long form, the original long form birth certificate showing parents, date of birth, place of birth, all of it. But, the original long form. I am curious because he is adamant to not show it. Why not show it? Why not show school registration records? Either way, he’s in the White House transforming our country as he promised, and I’d like to know more about him, thank you.


210 posted on 08/17/2010 2:19:25 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: jamese777
What information from a long form birth certificate is relevant to being a natural born citizen that isn’t on a short form? The US Constitution requires birth in the US, age 35 and 14 years residence in the US.

Whoa there fella. Does the U.S. Constitution equate being natural born with mere "birth in the U.S."?

"Natural born" is citizenship as a result of natural law. An anchor baby isn't a natural born citizen.

The moment you have to reach for a man-made law to define someone's citizenship, you know the person in question is not natural born.

279 posted on 08/17/2010 7:32:51 PM PDT by thecodont
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