Don't look, birthers: Obama's passport

Politico ^ | August 17, 2010 | Josh Gerstein

[Question Liberal Authority]

People who push the birth issue are being distracted from the “real” necessary work

Maybe, but it works both ways. Politico wasted resources chasing down the non-story that the Obama Administration issued Obama a passport. They could have spent those resources writing another fawning puff piece that might have done the man some good.

[bushpilot1]

The obvious purpose of the natural born citizen clause was to exclude aliens by birth and blood.

There can be no other explanation.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

Yes, I took a look at his passport photo, I noticed one very odd thing.

There his name is listed as Barack Hussein Obama — but shouldn’t it be, just like on this supposed birth certificate, Barack Hussein Obama II?

Isn’t the only way possible to get a passport is by using your birth certificate and doesn’t the passport have to have the exact same name as the Birth certificate?

Everyone?

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

What I’d like is a ‘tidbit’ of DNA from The One.
And a sample from Frank Marshall’s son and samples from all the Obozo half siblings. Let’s sort this out once and for all.

Yes

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To: RobinMasters; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...

I find it hard to believe that people are still talking about this birth announcement as if it actually proved that Obama was born in Hawaii. Here are the questions I have for those who insist it can:

1. EXACTLY, which part of this announcement indicates that Obama was born in Hawaii?

2. EXACTLY, which part of this ad indicates that this announcement was NOT phoned in?

Let me reiterate the fact that birth announcements can and were phoned in. Saying that they only came from Vital Records is patently false.

Secondly, and I know that this won't sit well with the Obama supporters, but the evidence for Obama being born outside of Hawaii is stronger than it is for being born inside, and that Ann Dunham obtained her son's birth certificate several days dater.

I checked with the sales department and classifieds at the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin. Call them yourselves if you don't believe me.

Plus, there is a lot more than suspicion about the address listed, as posted elsewhere, that there is no record of Mr & Mrs Barack Obama ever living there, but there is of another family. Also no black man or black child was ever seen there.

But, let's explore an alternative explanation: that the microfiche was altered.

The date of the birth announcements in the Aug 13, 1961 issue of the Sunday Advertiser ran from Sunday, July 30 to Monday, August 7.

The order of the birthdates, from the 1st listing to the 12th, seems to be random, ranging from July 30 to August 6. Since typeface is set from bottom to top, the last listing is actually the first, and from there upwards to the 13 th listing, the order is increasing chronologically from 4, 4, 4, 4 {Obama's}, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7, and the # of ads by day goes from Friday (4), Saturday (4), Sunday (1), and Monday (2).

Why would the Advertiser start its column with the weekend before last, from Friday to Monday, and then randomly from that point onwards?

If every listing came from Vital Records, then you would expect the entire list to be ordered by date or name. But, we know it's not. Maybe the first half came from the same hospital?

 

Those lines have been identified by some as "typeset lines" or ghost lines. The Advertiser listing for Obama has lines on both the top and bottom that continue on into the next column. The Star Bulletin listing does not.

224 posted on 07/24/2009 11:28:55 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)

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To: Polarik

Plus, there is a lot more than suspicion about the address listed, as posted elsewhere, that there is no record of Mr & Mrs Barack Obama ever living there, but there is of another family.

There is no evidence that there ever was a Mr & Mrs Barack Obama or that Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham ever lived together under the same roof at any time.

225 posted on 07/24/2009 11:36:03 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)

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[Polarik]

I find it hard to believe that people are still talking about this birth announcement as if it actually proved that Obama was born in Hawaii. Here are the questions I have for those who insist it can:

1. EXACTLY, which part of this announcement indicates that Obama was born in Hawaii?

2. EXACTLY, which part of this ad indicates that this announcement was NOT phoned in?

Let me reiterate the fact that birth announcements can and were phoned in. Saying that they only came from Vital Records is patently false.

Secondly, and I know that this won't sit well with the Obama supporters, but the evidence for Obama being born outside of Hawaii is stronger than it is for being born inside, and that Ann Dunham obtained her son's birth certificate several days dater.

I checked with the sales department and classifieds at the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin. Call them yourselves if you don't believe me.

Plus, there is a lot more than suspicion about the address listed, as posted elsewhere, that there is no record of Mr & Mrs Barack Obama ever living there, but there is of another family. Also no black man or black child was ever seen there.

But, let's explore an alternative explanation: that the microfiche was altered.

The date of the birth announcements in the Aug 13, 1961 issue of the Sunday Advertiser ran from Sunday, July 30 to Monday, August 7.

The order of the birthdates, from the 1st listing to the 12th, seems to be random, ranging from July 30 to August 6. Since typeface is set from bottom to top, the last listing is actually the first, and from there upwards to the 13 th listing, the order is increasing chronologically from 4, 4, 4, 4 {Obama's}, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7, and the # of ads by day goes from Friday (4), Saturday (4), Sunday (1), and Monday (2).

Why would the Advertiser start its column with the weekend before last, from Friday to Monday, and then randomly from that point onwards?

If every listing came from Vital Records, then you would expect the entire list to be ordered by date or name. But, we know it's not. Maybe the first half came from the same hospital?

 

Those lines have been identified by some as "typeset lines" or ghost lines. The Advertiser listing for Obama has lines on both the top and bottom that continue on into the next column. The Star Bulletin listing does not.

[Beckwith]

Plus, there is a lot more than suspicion about the address listed, as posted elsewhere, that there is no record of Mr & Mrs Barack Obama ever living there, but there is of another family.

There is no evidence that there ever was a Mr & Mrs Barack Obama or that Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham ever lived together under the same roof at any time.

[null and void]

Ooops. Netiquette. Should have paged you to #305

[WOSG]

“The obvious purpose of the natural born citizen clause was to exclude aliens by birth and blood.”

HUH? There is no such thing in the Constitution. Cite? Reference?

[null and void]

And you. *sigh*

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

Sorry but Bugs is smarter than Obama.

[WOSG]

proof? The newspaper birth announcement is evidence, not proof. I never spoke of proof.

One can make all the suppositions in the world, without evidence, but making those suppositions is not evidence. This whole line of reasoning that goes “X is not proven, therefore ‘not X’ is true” is a logical fallacy.

There are multiple explanations possible for his birth announcement to be in two Honolulu newspapers a week after his declared birth date. The simplest explanation is the most likely one to be true.

[WOSG]

“They could have spent those resources writing another fawning puff piece that might have done the man some good. “

Politico has those as Word macros, easier to generate.

[bgill]

White phone! White phone for the passport office! A bird called and is missing it’s cage liner.

[bitt]

excellent work! at 274

[Finalapproach29er]

Looks like he was conceived (on or about) the night JFK was elected.

Spooky.

[Tex-Con-Man]

Ron “$2 a minute” Polarik is probably still pulling buckshot out of his ass from his last visit here.

[Persevero]

Why not say that those who oppose finding Obama’s legitimate paper trail are distracted from electing Republicans etc.?

Frankly, wondering about Obama’s missing long form etc has not cost me more than about 15 minutes of my life. Plenty of time left to walk precincts.

[null and void]

Perhaps some cur shot him it the back.

[Tex-Con-Man]

See for yourself:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2562565/posts

[Red Steel]

That’s the Danae Polarik dustup that goes back over a year ago. And it wasn’t from the after-Birthers who hit him with anything worth a spittle.

[BP2]

The team will get to that question — really the heart of it all.

The additional info being sought will reflect inconsistencies of Obama’s time in Indo, but we’re trying to bust through other time frame barriers.

The first is in 1992, then 1988, then 1982, then 1978, then 1971, then 1968, 1964 and of course 1961... all important nexus point in Obama’s life growing up.

This passport is the first step, although a diplomatic passport means nothing except for any corresponding data through the State Dept and INTERPOL regarding when Obama & Senator Rugar were detained in Russia in 2005.

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