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Pat Tillman's Mom Accuses McChrystal of Cover-up
NBC Bay Area ^ | Mon, Aug 16, 2010 | GREG WILSON

Posted on 08/16/2010 4:51:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 08/16/2010 4:51:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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The treatment of Tilman’s death was wrong on so many levels. On the most basic, the government should have been open about the reality of battle—friendly fire has always been and always will be responsible for some deaths, that’s just a fact of war. But it’s treated as if it’s some evil perpetrated by the government or something.


2 posted on 08/16/2010 4:57:00 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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Dear Ms. Tillman: So what? Let’s take away his Silver Star and say he wasn’t a “hero”? Okay, if you insist.


3 posted on 08/16/2010 5:01:00 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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Someone was trying to be kind to Tillman’s family. It is hard enough loosing someone, let alone learning that it was an accident, a “friendly fire” accident.It is better to remember the lost loved one as a “hero” rather than feeling that their life was “wasted”.

I carried a friend’s body to the medevac helo. He had about 7 rounds in him , fired by a “Spooky” gunship working to stop NVA “human wave” assaults on our position. These assaults had been going on all night and Spooky lost track of where our lines were.

I’ve never been able to locate his parents or his widow. If I had been able to find them, I’m not sure if I would have mentioned the “friendly fire”.

I don’t lie, but giving less than all the facts and gory details in this case is probably the kindest course of action.

The Tillman case is probably partly this way and partly admin CYA.


4 posted on 08/16/2010 5:11:58 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("There are consequences for being wrong" - Burt Rutan)
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I understand the point, but as is the case with Tillman’s mother, obviously, some people want to know the truth, and it’s not the government’s place to decide to be kind or not. I can’t imagine any situation where I wouldn’t want to know the truth about my loved-one’s death.


5 posted on 08/16/2010 5:13:51 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: BwanaNdege

P.S. Thank you for your service.


6 posted on 08/16/2010 5:15:37 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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You are welcome, and thanks for the kind words.


7 posted on 08/16/2010 5:23:36 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("There are consequences for being wrong" - Burt Rutan)
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That must have been really difficult. So, you of all people completely understand. When the truth broke about Tillman, I assumed that is what happened. A mother is never ready to lose their child, and I’m sure this is one of many ways she is expressing her grief.


8 posted on 08/16/2010 5:24:47 PM PDT by HollyB
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So what?

Sorry but you are wrong.

The government lied about the causes of his death and she found out. If I was his parent I would be pissed off.

You are demanding someone to accept a lie, I highly doubt you would accept a lie when you in fact knew the truth.


9 posted on 08/16/2010 5:26:07 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Kind words aren’t enough but they’re all I’ve got. I recently lost a good friend who was a Vietnam combat vet, and while I’ve always been conscious of and grateful to our veterans, well, I guess I’m just a little more conscious now! Have a good one.


10 posted on 08/16/2010 5:29:47 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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One of my best friends was one of the first killed in Viet Nam.

I hope Mrs. Tillman can come to terms. It’s not easy.


11 posted on 08/16/2010 5:37:30 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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It’s not enough, but thank you. It’s hard enough to know someone killed by “friendly fire”; I can’t even imagine what it must be like for those who know they are responsible for such incidents.


12 posted on 08/16/2010 5:48:42 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Dutchboy88

He still is a hero.


13 posted on 08/16/2010 5:55:04 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Dutchboy88

I agree. I am sorry that people lose their loved ones in war, but after a while, you should just shut up about it. It is the Ronald Goldman syndrome. These people start to do it for attention.


14 posted on 08/16/2010 5:57:06 PM PDT by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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To: Dutchboy88

She has problems with an alleged government coverup. There hasn’t been a thorough investigation into her son’s death. If you have a problem with that, you take that up with Tillman’s mother.


15 posted on 08/16/2010 5:57:10 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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She’s not doing it for fame or money. She wants to know how and why her son’s death wasn’t investigated.


16 posted on 08/16/2010 5:59:12 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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The government lied about the causes of his death and she found out. If I was his parent I would be pissed off. You are demanding someone to accept a lie, I highly doubt you would accept a lie when you in fact knew the truth

Not only did the government admit the truth, it also apologized, nobody is trying to make her accept lies as the truth.

17 posted on 08/16/2010 5:59:21 PM PDT by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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...taking away a medal “not earned” does not take away the earned title of hero.

I also think the lying propaganda crap that was initially dished out to the public, and also fed to Pat Tillman's family was morally wrong.
What the feds did to the Tillman family, and the public, was as distasteful as what Cindy Sheehan did to the memory of her dead son, Casey.
Both men died while honorably fighting in a war.
They sacrificed all, and neither of them wanted to die.
I would like to think neither of them would want their deaths fraudulently exploited by anyone, for any reason.
Yes, I understand Pat Tillman was famous prior to enlisting.
That did not give the feds the right to exploit his death, and essentially end up casting taint on his honorable service.
There have been other incidents where the feds have chosen to intentionally lie to the public regarding military casualties, to produce fictional PC hero's.

It always backfires, and there is never a need to do it.

Prayers for Pat Tillman and Casey Sheehan, and every man and woman who was killed or injured in service of the USA.

Prayers also for those about to deploy.

18 posted on 08/16/2010 6:04:14 PM PDT by sarasmom (No incumbent re-elected, at any level of government office.(Period))
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She’s not doing it for fame or money. She wants to know how and why her son’s death wasn’t investigated

She has known since 2007 what happened, because it was investigated. A 3 star general was held accountable (Kesinger) after congressional hearings happened. She is just trying to stay in the news.

19 posted on 08/16/2010 6:06:33 PM PDT by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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20 posted on 08/16/2010 6:07:05 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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