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To: edge919

Two quotes to note:

“...such other data as the director may authorize ...”

followed by

“The director, in accordance with HRS §338-18(d), has not authorized any other data to be made available to the public.”

That’s not in accordance, but more like in defiance. Note this opinion letter from the HI Office of Information Practices.

“(d) Index data consisting of name, age, and sex of the registrant and date, type and FILE NUMBER of the vital event and such other data as the director may authorize may be made available to the public.”

http://hawaii.gov/oip/opinionletters/opinion%2090-23.pdf

Note, a certificate number has been made public, allegedly with consent of the Obama camp at factlack dot org.

And once more according to the HI OIP:

“... a matter no longer affects the privacy of the individual where it has been made public or has been published.”

http://hawaii.gov/oip/opinionletters/opinion%2006-07.pdf

Thus, if Obama’s legitimate number was published by factlack, then the DOH has no statutory reason to withhold a confirmation of that number. The only quasi-legitimate reason to withhold it is if releasing the number would violate someone else’s privacy ... which would mean the number belongs to another person born in 1961, not Obama. Other states, such as Washington, still include the certificate number as part of the index data. It’s very odd that Hawaii feels like they need to protect this number when it has already been made public, unless it exposes Obama and them as liars and frauds.


I can’t wait until someone puts out the close to $100 for that additional 90-some pages of “index data”. They are going to be reallly upset.
The only pertinent information from index data has been on the Department of Health’s website for over a year: they have a birth record for a male child named Barack Hussein Obama II.
edge919, this sounds like the perfect mission for you! Cough up that duplicating costs money.

I’m left to wonder what the motivation is for a Republican administration in Hawaii to go to such great lengths to cover for a Democrat president.

I would think that someone who felt that they had a right to what the Department of Health is determining to be confidential vital records would have filed suit to get a judicial ruling on that matter.


283 posted on 08/20/2010 12:52:00 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
The only pertinent information from index data has been on the Department of Health’s website for over a year: they have a birth record for a male child named Barack Hussein Obama II.

Which proves nothing about where he was born.

edge919, this sounds like the perfect mission for you! Cough up that duplicating costs money.

I shouldn't need to do. Did you not read what I just posted??

I’m left to wonder what the motivation is for a Republican administration in Hawaii to go to such great lengths to cover for a Democrat president.

Her state got caught in the middle of something they never intended to be part of. This is a black eye for her state and she's done nothing but parroted a few talking points hoping the truth never comes out.

I would think that someone who felt that they had a right to what the Department of Health is determining to be confidential vital records would have filed suit to get a judicial ruling on that matter.

IIUC, internet powerhouse Andy Martin has tried. butterdezillion has tried working with the OIP and AG's office. None of these departments have been, ummmm, particularly cooperative.

288 posted on 08/20/2010 9:32:26 PM PDT by edge919
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