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To: edge919

Ummm, these people you listed have gone out of their way to avoid saying Obama’s alleged COLB is genuine, and to avoid specifying any official documents that support the claims that Obama was born in Hawaii. They have gone out of their way to change their law to avoid any responsibility in giving direct answers or complying with other disclosure laws. Because of their indirect approach to this issue, they don’t have a lot of credibility, but it still doesn’t deal with the question I posed originally about why the White House isn’t as responsive to questions about an original birth certificate as they appear to be with this diplomatic passport.


I think that there can be different points of view on directness or indirectness. The following seems pretty direct to me:
“You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Senator McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. ... It’s been established. He was born here.”—Governor of Hawaii Linda Lingle (R)

You and the White House also disagree on responsiveness. From their point of view, they addressed that question a year ago. The two birth announcements in both Honolulu newspapers from 1961 would tend to back them up.

From your point of view, they haven’t been responsive at all unless the long form is released. That’s politics. It will be up to the voters to decide whose side they come down on, for those voters to whom this issue matters at all.

Janice Okubo of the state Health Department says that the state of Hawaii has not issued long forms to anybody since the state went paperless in 2001. I have been looking for one copy of a long form to show up on the internet that was issued since 2001, thus far, no luck. I even had a bet of a $200 donation to FreeRepublic riding on a copy of a long form issued since 2001 being posted here but no one posted one. I waited for six weeks.

I still maintain that the best way to try and get the long form released is not under Obama’s authority but via a neutral party getting a subpoena for its release.


124 posted on 08/16/2010 2:20:31 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
The following seems pretty direct to me.

And how many deeds to the Brooklyn Bridge do you 'own'?? Pleases. Lingle gave demonstrably false informatin. There's no news release that the president was born at Kapiolani Hospital. She claims twice, it's a 'fact.' She's wrong on both counts.

You and the White House also disagree on responsiveness. From their point of view, they addressed that question a year ago. The two birth announcements in both Honolulu newspapers from 1961 would tend to back them up.

Only if the birth announcements actually listed the place of birth, or even a baby's name. The fact that the announcements include an address his parents were never known to reside at creates major problems in the story.

Janice Okubo of the state Health Department says that the state of Hawaii has not issued long forms to anybody since the state went paperless in 2001.

The law says they have to issue any part of any record upon request. Of course, Spokesbabe Okubo also said Obama's certificate 'looks like' hers, as if that's an official way to authenticate a legal document. She said they don't keep divorce records, when their own website said they did. She is a wealth of misinformation and perhaps ignorance. While you're looking for a post-2001 long form, why don't you see if you can find the news release Lingle spoke of.

131 posted on 08/16/2010 2:50:31 PM PDT by edge919
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