Posted on 08/14/2010 4:09:18 AM PDT by GonzoII
Friday August 13, 2010First Rush, then Coulter, and Now Glenn Beck ... Whats Happening?
Commentary by John-Henry Westen OReilly asked Beck, Do you believe that gay marriage is a threat to the country in any way? Beck replied, No, I don't, adding sarcastically, Will the gays come and get us? The Glenn Beck revelation comes on the heels of two other startling announcements by conservative celebrity pundits in the last couple of weeks. Earlier this week it was announced that conservative pundit Ann Coulter would headline a fundraiser for the homosexual activist group within the Republican Party, GOProud. And on July 29, although his position had been revealed before, talk radio host Rush Limbaugh again came out in favor of homosexual civil unions, while being opposed to same-sex marriage. To be fair, it must be pointed out that Beck said he was looking at the big picture and promoting faith, the answer to all such things. Moreover, he added that he was okay with gay marriage with a caveat. As long as we are not going down the road of Canada, where it now is a problem for churches to have free speech. If they can still say, hey, we oppose it, he said. But even to have suggested, as strongly as he did, that he was not opposed to gay marriage is detrimental and demonstrates a small picture approach. Beck seems like a good guy. Hes thoughtful. Hes right on many matters in the culture war. For instance, when OReilly followed up and asked if Beck thought abortion threatened the United States, Beck replied dramatically in the affirmative. Abortion is killing, its killing, youre killing someone, he said. So I thought itd be worth it to calmly and persuasively share concerns with Beck on his approach. He may not read my email, but Im sure if enough pro-family folks were to get the message to him, hed reconsider his outlook.
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“Your words...”
Yep. Did you have a point?
It is obvious -my point has been made repeatedly.
You conceded as much when you lost your composure and retreated from directly engaging the argument instead focusing on me and then only implying passively what at first you vigorously espoused e.g that 'truth' I won't admit...
Check Mate -your arguments have been kicked to the curb like so much refuse --DUDE...
“Check Mate -your arguments have been kicked to the curb like so much refuse —DUDE... “
Yes, I’m so humiliated that I can’t measure up to your fictional argument that you invented in your head and didn’t bother to tell anyone about.
I’m sure right now you are preparing a clever retort to the next thing that I never said.
Keep up the good work.
Now will you go away?
Why don't you walk away? Or do you really need to have the last word?
I don’t want your friend to think that I didn’t take his posts seriously. I am giving them all due consideration, can’t you tell?
What are there 4 of you poor misguided souls on this thread?
All 4 of you argued arguments on this thread that were never made, at least by me.
It would have been nice to discuss the role of Christianity in the present government, and contrast that with the ideal, as articulated by our founding fathers. It was too much for you.
Next time I’ll dumb down my argument. Maybe that will help you and your friends understand that we were on the same side of this debate, and our only difference was an understanding of “why”.
At least they just talk and don’t make comments online.... I hope!
You deserve an award for dealing with this online approximation of a monkey throwing feces at a zoo.
I never claimed that you said anything. I simply disagreed with what you did say. And because none of us agree with you, instead of debate, you insult. Anyone who disagrees with you is called stupid. That's not debate. That's ego screaming.
It would have been nice to discuss the role of Christianity in the present government, and contrast that with the ideal, as articulated by our founding fathers.
The early fathers of our country did not believe that the federal government had any religious role. Jefferson declared days of prayer and fasting as governor of Virginia but resisted doing so as President. He did not believe that was a Presidents job. That all the Founders were God-fearing men is a given. That few in DC today even know who God is is also a given. What's there to discuss?
No one wants to talk with you about anything. You are too rude.
Beck was talking about the role of the law not whether he is “cool” with everything people may do.
I can be a dick, too, and apparently Im much better at it than you.
We should all agree with your self evaluation of yourself, and after 800+ posts you can take your "D" title and go home with it.
Whaddaya say? Or do you always need to have the last word?
My supposition is that you just can't shut up...
Prove me wrong. Go ahead.
They’re very slippery like greased snakes. The very epitome of deceit and duplicity. That’s what gets me. Honest debate with someone who disagrees but is respectful enough to communicate their own POV as clearly as they can and reply authentically to what is said is a completely different experience.
The examples on this thread are like trying to debate with a moving pile of quivering slime.
I don’t believe debate is the point. I believe that ego trip is.
Zoo, monkey, throwing poo....
I’m not angry.. I’m just pointing out that your views are just like liberals. You want to push your agenda not in favor of the consitution but in favor of your own beliefs.
Conservative.. you’re not even close.
So to go back to your post.
I’m glad that you that are for laws that are against adultry and divorce. Since that is deviant behavior as well.
Or are you going to try and wiggle your way out of it again?
Next time Ill dumb down my argument. Maybe that will help you and your friends understand that we were on the same side of this debate, and our only difference was an understanding of why.
Your people skills need some work (and after this you should know it).
I recommend the following book: "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" by Stephen R. Covey.
One of the habits is:
Habit 5. Seek First to Understand, Then to be Understood
Suggesting the listener is unable yo comprehend your message e.g. stupid -is not being effective --it is NOT effective communication. IF your goal was to sell a position you failed. It was all you as far as failure...
I myself sought to understand and as a result stated agreement on almost all -save one issue.
I would hope this a learning experience...
Ooookay.
How is it that there were laws against sodomy - aka homosexual acts - for the first say 200 years of our country? And the men who discussed, wrote and signed the Constitution all were fine with that?
And I’m not saying that “homosexuality” should be illegal, nor did they. Laws against sodomy were against the act, not against any group of people, because the very idea of a group identity of “homosexuals” had not yet fermented in the minds of any perverts yet.
There were no laws “against” same sex marriage as no mentally ill people clamored for it, and if they had, people would have laughed and then paid no attention.
This topic has nothing - zero - zilch - nada - with “my own beliefs”. Not changing the definition of marriage to mean “two men or two women getting married” has to do with immutable natural law, morality as inculcated in every religion in the world, historical precedence for thousands of years, psychology, health, the will of the people, and probably I could think of more, say tomorrow morning.
My beliefs or your beliefs have nothing to do with objective reality. People can choose to mold their beliefs in accordance with reality, or they can fight reailty.
I choose to accept reality and make it my guiding light, rather than remain in the darkness of confusion and illusory “beliefs”.
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