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President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque
NY Post ^ | August 13, 2010 | SALLY GOLDENBERG and CARL CAMPANILE

Posted on 08/14/2010 2:45:18 AM PDT by Scanian

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To: Ayn And Milton

thank you.

if only more people could read it and understand the event for what it truly is.


21 posted on 08/14/2010 3:51:08 AM PDT by sten
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To: sten

“either 0bama is so stupid that he doesn’t see that... or complicit and actually wants to help”

The more I see of 0’s machinations, the less I think he’s “stupid”. I think he’s malevolent, and cynically trying to destroy many of the best features of America.

I think what’s often mistaken for stupidity is his blind arrogance. That is what’s allowing him to miscalculate so badly, and not see the tremendous backlash coming against his wrongheaded policies and ideas.

His attempts to divide this country are resulting in the Right coalescing and becoming active. I’m hopeful America returns to its best founding principles over the next few years.


22 posted on 08/14/2010 3:57:55 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

God sometimes operates that way. He lets a people flirt with evil then waits while they suffer the consequences, preferring that they would learn a lesson from it but permitting them to stiffen their necks further if that’s what they would rather do.

By any rational measure, the Democrats and Obama are a disaster deluxe. The big, immediate question is whether outraged ordinary Americans or an unanticipated spring of Kool-Aid drinkers will prevail this November.


23 posted on 08/14/2010 4:08:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Here is a man who is Muslim and fears practicing his religion will turn off voters.

If Obama is not a Muslim, what is he?

Has he attended any Church since he threw Rev. Wright under the bus.

Obama says Americans have the right to practice religion, yet he doesn’t practice his.


24 posted on 08/14/2010 4:23:47 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Scanian

>>>>>”This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable.<<<<<

How can a man say such a thing when his own religious views are so shakeble.

He got shook hard when he was running for President, and his religion was the religon of bigotry,and white hate, practiced by the Rev Wright, his mentor.

He threw Wright under the bus, but he wasnt really a Christian even then, just a hater of whites. His true religion is as a Muslim, but even that religious faith is shakeble and gets shaken by the American Vote.

At least he stopped going to Christian Church’s and perpetuating the lie that he is Christian, even though he denies what he really is.


25 posted on 08/14/2010 4:31:25 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Scanian

Jonathan Elliot was prescient:

“Those who are Mahometans, or any others who are not professors of the Christian religion, can never be elected to the office of President, or other high office, but in one of two cases. First, if the people of America lay aside the Christian religion altogether, it may happen. Should this unfortunately take place, the people will choose such men as think as they do themselves. Another case is, if any persons of such descriptions should, notwithstanding their religion, acquire the confidence and esteem of the people of America by their good conduct and practice of virtue, they may be chosen. I leave it to gentlemen’s candor to judge what probability there is of the people’s choosing men of different sentiments from themselves.”

The people of America have laid aside their Christian religion.


26 posted on 08/14/2010 4:31:53 AM PDT by naturalized
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To: Darkwolf377
It is time to change the dialogue.

Our founders were for all practical purposes Christian.

Our documents recognize and reflect Jesus.

Jefferson needed to read Muslim literature to militarilly defeat them.

We are not ignorant of the Satanic devices of Islam.

No one dares say it ... Islam must die in America.

There is no place nor room for this satanic cult.

27 posted on 08/14/2010 4:31:58 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Venturer

Worship of various kinds carries various subtexts along with it. The subtexts have their own politics. Sticking a mosque right next door to Ground Zero has an Islamic triumphalism subtext, and if the Bummer is listening at all to his CIA intercepts he could not plead ignorance. In another “unnamed” group of faiths, pro-life pro-traditional-marriage is a subtext. Yet somehow these are amplified as “evils” while the Islamic triumphalism goes pointedly ignored.

Bummer is a quiet Muslim. He doesn’t go kneeling on prayer rugs wailing to Allah five times a day (as far as we can tell) but again, to fulfill the Islamic goal of sacred lying to the infidel, he would be excused from that.


28 posted on 08/14/2010 4:32:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Venturer

nobama is the ultimate anti-President who wraps him self in illogic as he attempts to destroy free America. What an anti-American putz. The Founding Fathers are watching him awaken the spirit of America as Citizens begin to be energized to throw the losers like him out.


29 posted on 08/14/2010 4:34:56 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Ground Zero is, indeed, hallowed ground,” the president said.


After endorsing the mosque, he just became a one-term president with *that* statement.


30 posted on 08/14/2010 4:34:58 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: Scanian

Gee, as a Muslim, is it “kosher” for the POTUS to make political statements during Ramadan?


31 posted on 08/14/2010 4:35:27 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: naturalized

Enough Americans don’t care any more about the spiritual issues, or are easily fooled, to have permitted Obama to get elected president. A parallel divide is seen among Jewish people. Those who still put their faiths in a traditional God are far more likely to oppose Obama than those who are just coasting along in an ethnic identity.


32 posted on 08/14/2010 4:35:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: onyx

What’s another self contradiction out of thousands?

However he does seem to be a walking talking GOP attack ad right now.


33 posted on 08/14/2010 4:37:51 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Carley

Honestly, if af1 crashed w him in it I could care less at this point.


34 posted on 08/14/2010 4:39:21 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: hal ogen

The biggest thing America needs to watch out for come November is Kool-Aid drinkers coming out of the woodwork.


35 posted on 08/14/2010 4:39:26 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: GnuHere

Shoot, to him as a Moose it would be a duty.


36 posted on 08/14/2010 4:40:27 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: knarf
It is time to change the dialogue. Our founders were for all practical purposes Christian. Our documents recognize and reflect Jesus. Jefferson needed to read Muslim literature to militarilly defeat them. We are not ignorant of the Satanic devices of Islam. No one dares say it ... Islam must die in America. There is no place nor room for this satanic cult.

The founders made no mention of Islam or any non-Christian religion for prohibition. The point isn't about making Islam illegal or something--how would such a thing be done, arresting believers?

The issue isn't belief--we don't arrest people for belief, nor should we.

The issue, particularly since conservatives are so focused on states' rights and local control, is that New Yorkers have put decision makers in place who do not reflect their own desires.

37 posted on 08/14/2010 4:41:33 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Fanaticism is described as redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim."-G. Santayana)
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To: Scanian
saying it shows that America’s commitment to to religious tolerance is "unshakeable."

Then the same standard must be used for the tolerance of Satanists/Luciferians and worshipers of Kali.

38 posted on 08/14/2010 4:41:58 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: knarf
Our documents recognize and reflect Jesus.

That's news to me.

39 posted on 08/14/2010 4:42:29 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Fanaticism is described as redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim."-G. Santayana)
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To: Darkwolf377

Nodding at mah bro.


40 posted on 08/14/2010 4:43:14 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (1.416785(71) x 10^32 freeweev Apres moi le deluge)
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