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To: ansel12; meadsjn; All
Not saying that you are totally ignorant or a liar, but where do you see the Socons on this chart, and where do you see your types, are you secular?

My guess would be that meadsjn believes in a common misconception in American politics, which is that "SoCon" encompasses any groups that are "religious" (by whatever definition, even erroneous ones). "SoCon" and "religious" are not necessarily contiguous. Blacks are very religious - perhaps the most religious group in America - but when you get right down to how they act w.r.t. abortion, etc., they are one of the most socially liberal groups, and as we all know, they routinely vote Democrat. Blacks are a large part of the reason why the abortion statistics for "Protestants" and "Southerners" are skewed way higher than you would normally expect. It's not that Southern Protestants in general are out there getting all these abortions after they hypocritically got knocked up. It's that blacks contribute so disproportionately to these statistics.

Yet, every comentator out there routinely assumes that blacks are "socially conservative," when in fact they are most definitely not, in either their behaviour or their voting patterns.

Another group that I've noticed this to be the case with, at least as far as assumptions based on stereotypes are made, is poor rural whites - you know, the stereotypical trailer-dwelling, truck on blocks in the front yard, Wal-Mart-shopping, good ol' boy types. Fact is, these folks generally are not religious. They may go on TV and say stuff like "Sweet Jeeeeeesus, I thought that thar tornader was gonna take ma trailer!" but that doesn't mean you'll find these folks in church on Sunday in large numbers. Actually, you won't. Trust me, I've done a lot of door-to-door and visitation in a lot of neighbourhoods, and this type of folk talk a lot about God and they sound religious, but don't typically have much to do with religion.

Yet, when they vote Democrat so that the welfare will keep flowing, you then have people like meadsjn squawking about all these "SoCons" are voting Democrat. Except these folks aren't SoCons. They aren't really against abortion, and to the extent that they would oppose gay marriage, it would not be out of any moral or philosophical principles, but instead would be because "them queers jus' ain't raaaht."

86 posted on 08/10/2010 3:58:38 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
They may go on TV and say stuff like "Sweet Jeeeeeesus, I thought that thar tornader was gonna take ma trailer!" but that doesn't mean you'll find these folks in church on Sunday in large numbers. Actually, you won't. Trust me, I've done a lot of door-to-door and visitation in a lot of neighbourhoods, and this type of folk talk a lot about God and they sound religious, but don't typically have much to do with religion. Yet, when they vote Democrat so that the welfare will keep flowing, you then have people like meadsjn squawking about all these "SoCons" are voting Democrat. Except these folks aren't SoCons. They aren't really against abortion, and to the extent that they would oppose gay marriage, it would not be out of any moral or philosophical principles, but instead would be because "them queers jus' ain't raaaht."

You have a different concept of working class, white Christian conservatives than I do. Frankly I'm not sure just how many categories of Americans that you are vomiting on in that description, southern life must be hell for you.

98 posted on 08/10/2010 4:47:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
this type of folk talk a lot about God and they sound religious, but don't typically have much to do with religion

But do they like haggis?

150 posted on 08/11/2010 7:06:19 AM PDT by detritus
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