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To: ansel12
Glenn said the other day on his TV show that he was a Christian. Everything I have heard him say since coming to Fox, would lead me to believe that he was a Christian. I can't say that I have disagreed with anything of the spiritual nature that he has said. This may be by design so as to not alienate his audience. In other words, to speak about things most Christians can agree on. I have heard Glenn say all the things that the thief on the cross said to Jesus and he was saved.

Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise.”

Ponder, if you will, Romans 14. I find it PROFOUND. It's not just about food. Food is one of the metaphors. Also he talks about various ways to worship God. (denominations anyone?) In verse 1 Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. Disputable matters are those things that separate denominations or even religions.
Verse 4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.”

Our Master is Jesus. He will decide who stands.

18 posted on 08/10/2010 11:09:01 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: faucetman
"Glenn said the other day on his TV show that he was a Christian. Everything I have heard him say since coming to Fox, would lead me to believe that he was a Christian. I can't say that I have disagreed with anything of the spiritual nature that he has said. This may be by design so as to not alienate his audience. In other words, to speak about things most Christians can agree on. I have heard Glenn say all the things that the thief on the cross said to Jesus and he was saved."

There it is, Glenn Beck left Christianity, joined the non-Christian Mormon cult, suddenly got his big break and is now becoming America's "Christian" radio preacher by convincing people like you and millions of others that he and his religion are Christian.

There is a reason that Mormons have to be baptised as Christians when they convert to Christianity.

Q: I read recently that the Catholic Church had rejected Mormon baptism, since their view of Christ and the Trinity is so unusual. But I have to ask: Are Mormons considered separated brothers and sisters? While their views are strange to say the least, they are still separated, and we should reach out to them. If we view them as something other than separated, doesn't that exclude ecumenism? I know that many view them as a cult, but aren't cult members separated as well?

A: The reason Mormons are not considered separated brethren is not because they aren't "separated" from the Church-they are-but they aren't "brethren" in the sense required. The phrase separated brethren refers to those who, though separated from full communion with the Catholic Church, have been justified through baptism and are thus brethren in Christ. The Decree on Ecumenism (Unitatis Redintegratio) of Vatican II teaches that "all who have been justified by faith in baptism are members of Christ's body, and have a right to be called Christian, and so are correctly accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church."

Because Mormonism is polytheistic and rejects the Trinity, Mormon baptism is not valid, and Mormons are not considered separated brethren. For the same reason, outreach to them, while certainly a good thing, is not ecumenism, though it can include dialogue and social cooperation as well as efforts to evangelize them.

21 posted on 08/10/2010 11:36:36 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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