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To: at bay
The author says there is no way his father being a Kenyan can produce a son that is a “natural born citizen” per the US Constitition.

I beg to differ with the author. If daddy wasn't married to Stanley Dunham, then Obama's a bastard but he's a natural-born citizen. FWIW I think he was born in Honolulu all right, but that he started telling people (after Bobby Rush pounded him in a congressional election) that he was born in Mombasa to make himself "blacker" and get over with the Southside Chicago voters. Bobby Rush had painted Obama as a tan man with an Oreo attitude wrapped in a Harvard degree and a three-piece suit.

I'm more interested in his "renaturalization" and citizenship history after he was adopted in Jakarta, which made him an exclusively Indonesian citizen. And did he use Indonesian passports when he was in his 20's, and apply for student aid as a "foreign" student?

13 posted on 08/10/2010 12:12:28 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

I don’t think being a bastard would change things. You need to have two citizen parents to be natural born. With just one you would be native born.


20 posted on 08/10/2010 12:18:54 AM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
If daddy wasn't married to Stanley Dunham, then Obama's a bastard but he's a natural-born citizen.
That's a big "if". It would still depend on who his actual father was as to whether or not he was a natural born citizen.
22 posted on 08/10/2010 12:19:37 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Rumor has it he even claimed he was born in Mombasa in a televised TV debate with Alan Keyes during their Senate race. Sadly, that too has gone missing like most of his records.


43 posted on 08/10/2010 1:04:02 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: lentulusgracchus
he was adopted in Jakarta, which made him an exclusively Indonesian citizen.

How did his adoption make him an exclusively Indonesian citizen? Are you suggesting that a parent can renounce US citizenship on behalf of a US Citizen child? Please show me the statute that allows a parent to do such a thing.

63 posted on 08/10/2010 2:00:55 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: lentulusgracchus
a bastard Still has a father.

Unless he was fathered by Frank Marshall Davis or another on the list of suspects he is not a NBC. Regardless, his actions indicate that there is much hidden that he will not discuss. And the importance of the "hidden" history must be so damaging as to make it impossible to openly discuss.

93 posted on 08/10/2010 3:10:47 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

If his mother was not of sufficient age to confer citizenship then he is not natural born, if ie he was actually born Hawaii which most likey he was not.


108 posted on 08/10/2010 4:08:05 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Parying today for a new house and senate that is conservative)
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To: lentulusgracchus; All

You said exactly what I think the real issue is, and furthermore, I think Dear Imposter is using the birth certificate flap to hide his Indonesian citizenship, which he claimed to get preference in his college applications/loans.


You said:

“I’m more interested in his “renaturalization” and citizenship history after he was adopted in Jakarta, which made him an exclusively Indonesian citizen. And did he use Indonesian passports when he was in his 20’s, and apply for student aid as a “foreign” student? “


191 posted on 08/10/2010 2:58:55 PM PDT by jacquej
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