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10 corridors targeted for high-speed rail
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Monday, August 9, 2010 | Paul Nussbaum

Posted on 08/09/2010 2:53:27 PM PDT by Willie Green

The federal government, since 1991, has designated 10 corridors for high-speed rail development, including the Philadelphia-to-Pittsburgh "Keystone Corridor."

Those "designated corridors" don't include the most heavily traveled one, the Northeast Corridor between Washington and Boston.

Most of the corridor plans involve incremental steps to speed up existing service, rather than installation of true high-speed service with trains traveling at more than 155 m.p.h.

That's much cheaper, allowing passenger trains to share tracks with freight and commuter trains. But it does not allow for the full advantages European or Japanese-style high-speed rail offer, such as dramatic travel-time savings that can make trains competitive with airplanes.

Eventually, the "higher-speed" corridors could be upgraded to true high-speed service, with separate tracks and signal systems.

The designated corridors:

Florida. Now aiming to be a true high-speed corridor, with 168-m.p.h. trains operating between Tampa and Orlando, with an extension planned to Miami. Estimated cost: $3.2 billion for the first leg; $11.5 billion for the entire project.

Status: Florida received $1.25 billion for the project from the Obama administration's $8 billion grant of stimulus funds.

The state already owns the land for tracks in the middle of I-4. The project may go to bid by the end of 2010, and construction of the first leg could be completed by 2014. Critics note the line would go to downtown Tampa but not to Tampa's airport, and to Orlando's airport but not to downtown Orlando, limiting its usefulness.

California. Planning to be a true high-speed corridor, with 220-m.p.h. service between Los Angeles and San Francisco. Estimated cost: $45 billion.

Planned extensions would include San Diego, San Jose, Sacramento, and Las Vegas.

Status: California received $2.5 billion of the $8 billion in stimulus funds. That grant requires the state to begin construction on the project by late 2012 and to have at least one segment running by 2017.

California voters in 2008 approved $9.9 billion for the project. Initial environmental studies have been completed.

The California High-Speed Rail Authority in May selected Roelof van Ark as its new chief executive. Van Ark was president of Alstom Transportation, the North American subsidiary of the French company that makes the TGV and AGV high-speed trains and hopes to build them for the United States.

The California state auditor recently released a report criticizing the authority for not having enough money for the project. The report also said the agency suffers from insufficient planning, poor contract management, and lax oversight.

Environmental groups and local communities have sued to stop the project or change its alignment.

Keystone. Current plans call for upgrading Amtrak service between Philadelphia and Harrisburg and studying increased service between Harrisburg and Pittsburgh.

The Philadelphia-to-Harrisburg line, which currently operates trains up to 110 m.p.h., is the highest-speed corridor in the nation except for the line that runs between Washington and Boston.

Status: In the Obama administration's January funding, the Keystone Corridor got $25.6 million - or 0.3 percent of the total.

The money did not include funding that SEPTA and Amtrak had hoped for - for track, signal, and power improvements and the addition of a third express track between Atglen and Paoli in Chester County - that would allow trains in the Keystone Corridor to reach 125 m.p.h., up from 110.

Amtrak, with state subsidies, operates 14 daily round-trips between Philadelphia and Harrisburg.

The new money also included $750,000 to study expansion of passenger service between Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, where one diesel Amtrak train operates daily in each direction on freight-owned tracks.

Chicago Hub Network. Current plans call for upgrading existing service from Chicago to Milwaukee and Madison, Wis., St. Louis, Detroit, Minneapolis–St. Paul, Cleveland, Indianapolis, and Cincinnati.

Status: Environmental-impact studies have been done for Chicago–St. Louis, and parts of other routes. The French national railway, SNCF, proposed last September to build a true high-speed rail network, with 220 m.p.h. trains, for $68.5 billion.

Projects in the corridor received $2.6 billion in January.

Pacific Northwest. Plans call for incremental improvements to existing Amtrak service on the 466-mile corridor that links Seattle with Vancouver, British Columbia, and Portland, Ore.

Status: Between 1994 and 2007, Washington and Oregon spent $700 million to upgrade track and signal systems, renovate stations, and purchase trains. They hope to eventually boost train speeds to 110 m.p.h.

To advance that goal, the corridor received $598 million from the $8 billion in stimulus funds.

Southcentral. The network is designated with a hub in Dallas-Fort Worth and spokes to Oklahoma City and Tulsa, Okla.; Texarkana, Ark.-Texas, and Little Rock; and Austin and San Antonio, Texas.

Status: Texas has had a checkered history with high-speed rail, and it got virtually no money from the Obama administration's $8 billion pot this year because the state failed to present a unified vision of what it planned. An ambitious "Texas TGV" high-speed plan collapsed in the early 1990s because of funding woes, and since then high-speed rail has floundered in the state.

A "Texas T-bone" proposal, offered by a group of local counties and cities, calls for a line from Dallas to San Antonio and a connecting line from Austin to Houston, at a cost of as much as $20 billion. Meanwhile, Texas' new Rail Division has just embarked on a series of statewide "visioning workshops" to essentially start over on high-speed rail plans.

Gulf Coast. Designed to use New Orleans as a hub, with spokes reaching Houston, Mobile and Birmingham, Ala., and Atlanta.

Status: The Southern High-Speed Rail Commission, which represents Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama, has received money to study high-speed rail, but little progress has been made. The corridor received no money from the high-speed grants.

Southeast. The corridor is designated as Washington-Richmond-Raleigh-Charlotte, with eventual connections to Atlanta and beyond.

The January funding provided $620 million for the Washington-to-Richmond and Raleigh-to-Charlotte legs. Amtrak hopes to create 110-m.p.h. service between Washington and Charlotte, N.C., and Virginia and North Carolina have formed an authority to prepare for it.

Status: Initial environmental studies have been completed, and a route from Washington to Charlotte has been selected.

Empire. The designated corridor runs 462 miles from New York City to Albany, N.Y., and west to Buffalo.

Status: A state High-Speed Rail Task Force has evaluated the improvements needed to increase speeds to 125 m.p.h. on the 141-mile segment from New York to Albany.

The corridor received $148 million from the $8 billion pot, to improve tracks, signals, and stations.

Northern New England. The corridor is designed as a Boston hub, with spokes to Portland, Maine, Montreal, and Albany, via Springfield, Mass., with an extension from Springfield to New Haven, Conn.

Status: The corridor got $195 million in high-speed rail grants to extend passenger service from Portland to Brunswick, Maine, and to improve the Amtrak "Vermonter" service between Springfield, Mass., and St. Albans, Vt.


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1 posted on 08/09/2010 2:53:33 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

Hurray for bloated government subsidized, tax supported, money losing, unneeded, unwanted trains.


2 posted on 08/09/2010 2:59:23 PM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: Willie Green

what for ...we dont have any jobs...for people to go to..no economy....this is just about slush funds for politicians to soak us down some more. let states pay for this if they want it...


3 posted on 08/09/2010 3:00:23 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Willie Green

22 years and do trains? The government is really slow and undependable. How do they expect to keep a train schedule?


4 posted on 08/09/2010 3:00:56 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Willie Green

nice to know the country will be going directly to Hell at no less than 110MPH


5 posted on 08/09/2010 3:04:51 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Willie Green

“Planned extensions include San Diego...”

The people living in North San Diego County will not even allow the double tracking on the existing rail line near Encinitas. They will go ape at the thought of a bullet train (with new larger right of way) through Del Mar and La Jolla.


6 posted on 08/09/2010 3:05:24 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: HospiceNurse

If we’re wasting money on welfare....we might as well spend pennies to upgrade our trains.


7 posted on 08/09/2010 3:14:38 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: dalebert
what for ...we dont have any jobs...for people to go to..no economy.

Good point. We should end all road maintenance and shut down all airports as well.
8 posted on 08/09/2010 3:14:58 PM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’ll certainly argue against federal subsidies for this but at least it is something useful for my tax dollar. Once we get rid of all the other programs that as taxpayers I pay orders of magnitude more and get no (or negative) return from then I’ll worry about the few pennies going to produce infrastructure that is at least related to article I section 8 expenses.


9 posted on 08/09/2010 3:19:53 PM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: posterchild

AMTRAK hasn’t ever shown a tendency to make a profit beyond what you’d consider ‘marginal’....so now we think a high-speed train will turn a profit? Something just doesn’t click here.


10 posted on 08/09/2010 3:24:49 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Willie Green

high speed rail from Dallas to Texarkana. Yeah, thats just what we need...


11 posted on 08/09/2010 3:25:20 PM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: Willie Green

Passenger rail in the midwest illustrates why central planning does not work. Any competent central planner would plan exactly the same transportation system that the invisible hand would. That is because it is rational and clearly the best from a logical perspective.

But the central planners are not competent technocrats. They are politicians and emotional idealists driven by nostalgia and irrational disregard for facts and logic.

Chicago–St.Louis $68.5 billion. $2.6 billion so far? Wrong, $2.6 billion is just the part for 1 year from 1 appropriation/pot. So far the total already spent is much more than that. It comes from many pots. HUD money has been used to be the local matching share to State Money that was the state’s matching share to federal money.

In 2004 the subsidized cost to the taxpayer of each trip from my Normal to Chicago was $214. $187 of it subsidy. That cost more than tripled on Bush’s watch and is now to grow exponentially rather the linear.

Amtrak is 20 min slower to chicago than car on interstate when Amtrak is on time, which is 50% of the time.

We live in a democracy. People vote with their money, and with their feet. Green Leftists, conservatives, the non-political, everyone at ISU (a block from Amtrak) prefer in this order:
- Your daddy’s car with no passenger (or maybe it is yours)
- Carpool with 1 or 2 other passengers
- Peoria Charter; many up at the Student center Thurs and Friday to take thousands of students to hundreds of destinations and return Sunday night.
- Other buses: Other Charter, Greyhound, Megabus, Cavallo, Cunejo, etc
- Pretend you have ISU business near your house, recruiting at your local HS, mentoring the disadvantaged with ISU getting the credit, etc. If on ISU business then probably you can use one of their many cars or vans.
- Airplane: a little more costly and usually to go farther than Chicago.

Fewer people vote for Amtrak than any of the alternatives.

So why do we fund passenger rail? Nostalgia. My grandson loves Thomas the tank train. Thomas is a coal burning steamie. Passenger rail fans have the same maturity as my grandson.


12 posted on 08/09/2010 3:26:55 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: posterchild

The funny thing is that if we eliminated Social Security and Medicare overnight as well as striking ObamaCare unconstitutional, we could actually cut our taxes immensely, pay off our national debt and still have plenty of money to enact Eisenhower style high speed rail system in the U.S.


13 posted on 08/09/2010 3:27:00 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: forgotten man

You got that right about the LaJolla-ites not having any of this.

That little train station they have now is pretty sweet. Nothing is going to change there...to much $$$.


14 posted on 08/09/2010 3:30:30 PM PDT by Pigsley
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To: MinorityRepublican
If we’re wasting money on welfare....we might as well spend pennies to upgrade our trains.

Its going to cost more than pennies to seize my home for a railroad.
15 posted on 08/09/2010 3:30:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: pepsionice

AMTRAK probably doesn’t make a profit, just as the post office doesn’t. I’d expect that certain high density corridors may well make a profit or at least could if managed properly, just as UPS and FDX make profits at mail delivery. (Though given the footprint of rail and rights of way some state or local government intervention is likely)


16 posted on 08/09/2010 3:31:32 PM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: posterchild

for sure...I think the American people should go on strike. if congress doesnt have to read or name the bills it passes then we shouldnt have to work to pay for the crap


17 posted on 08/09/2010 3:33:48 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Willie Green

Here in Florida we had a referendum rejecting this boondoogle from Miami to Orlando and over the I-4 corridor to Tampa. The people said NO and still the bastards push.
They figure it will cost nearly as much to ride the damn thing as it would to fly from Argentina to Miami.
Anyway the folks here rejected this subsidized pos and still they want to shove one up our wallets.
Govt should be reduced by about 65 percent.


18 posted on 08/09/2010 3:37:54 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Ya unAmerican p.o.s.)
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To: HospiceNurse

If PRIVATE industry can make a cost-benefit analysis that supports building a transportation system, let them do it. Keep the freakin’ federal gubmint out of this. We don’t support ANY of their socialist crap programs, this one included. Americans have cars that we buy, maintain, insure, and supply fuel for, we DRIVE CARS, we don’t ride commie trains.


19 posted on 08/09/2010 3:40:47 PM PDT by zzeeman (Existence exists.)
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To: Willie Green

yeah!!!! cause we just aren’t going bankrupt fast enough!!!! HOOOORAAYYYYY


20 posted on 08/09/2010 4:12:48 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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