There's a reason why it was kept secret.
Posted on 08/08/2010 4:20:05 PM PDT by BigReb555
Revisionism is a great yankee tradition that's been handed down from father to son since 1865.
Check out The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Civil War if you get a chance. It explodes a lot of the yankee mythology about the War of Northern Aggression.
Stainlessbanner keeps the official (((ping))) list and I'm sure that he will be glad to put you on it but there are a few of us that ping each other and since you appear to be battle ready and eager to charge the yankee Fortress of Lies I'm sure that you'll be getting pinged plenty for all future engagements.
End the Occupation!
Free Dixie!!
You might notice that every soldier in your picture is wearing full Union army uniforms. That’s because it’s actually a picture of a USCT outfit.
No that was named for Edmund Rucker, former confederate colonel and local Birmingham bigwig. Maybe he owned Amos at one time?
Hope you punctuated your paper better than your post.
According to this website the 2nd company of the Richmond Howitzers was not present at Bull Run.
In addition two black “regiments”, one free and one slave, participated in the battle on behalf of the South. “Many colored people were killed in the action”, recorded John Parker, a former slave.
Here is a link to the confederate order of battle for 1st Bull Run. Can you please identify which were the black regiments? Extra credit if you can tell us which was the slave one and which was the free one.
At least one Black Confederate was a non-commissioned officer in Co. D 35th Texas Cavalry,
Frederick Douglass' son was one of thousands of blac NCOs in the Union army. And there was only one NCO in all the confederate army? With all those thousands of black combat troops claimed?
Dr. Lewis Steiner, Chief Inspector of the United States Sanitary Commission while observing Gen. “Stonewall” Jackson’s occupation of Frederick, Maryland, in 1862: “Over 3,000 Negroes must be included in this number [Confederate troops]. These were clad in all kinds of uniforms, not only in cast-off or captured United States uniforms, but in coats with Southern buttons, State buttons, etc. These were shabby, but not shabbier or seedier than those worn by white men in the rebel ranks. Most of the Negroes had arms, rifles, muskets, sabers, bowie-knives, dirks, etc.....and were manifestly an integral portion of the Southern Confederate Army.”
Dr. Steiner went on to say, "The fact was patent, and rather interesting when considered in connection with the horror rebels express at the suggestion of black soldiers being employed for the National defence." If blacks were accepted as combatants and brothers-in-arms in the confederate army then why would the react with horror at the thought of meeting them in battle?
In 1864, President Jefferson Davis approved a plan that proposed the emancipation of slaves, in return for the official recognition of the Confederacy by Britain and France. France showed interest but Britain refused.
How could Davis promise to emancipate the slaves in the confederacy when he lacked the constitutional authority to do so? And why is it when the confederate congress finally got around to authorizing black combat troops they specifically excluded any promise of emancipation in exchange for service?
Gen. Lee was anxious to receive regiments of black soldiers.
Was he? In January 1865 he wrote, "Considering the relation of master and slave, controlled by humane laws and influenced by Christianity and an enlightened public sentiment, as the best that can exist between the white and black races while intermingled as at present in this country, I would deprecate any sudden disturbance of that relation unless it be necessary to avert a greater calamity to both. I should therefore prefer to rely upon our white population to preserve the ratio between our forces and those of the enemy, which experience has shown to be safe."
Should have done a little more...
According to this website the 2nd company of the Richmond Howitzers was not present at Bull Run.”
Yeah, it was a conspiracy by Harpers to mislead the public. Hey, there’s a link on www.liberalsmakingshitup.com that syas Eleanor Roosevelt could fly...that’s how we won the war!
According to this website the 2nd company of the Richmond Howitzers was not present at Bull Run.”
Yeah, it was a conspiracy by Harpers to mislead the public. Hey, there’s a link on www.liberalsmakingshitup.com that says Eleanor Roosevelt could fly...that’s how we won the war!
Are you one of the editors there or just a contributor?
Yes, indeed. Those African-American soldiers joined the Union Army, after the CSA refused to accept them.
There's a reason why it was kept secret.
“Dr. Steiner went on to say, “The fact was patent, and rather interesting when considered in connection with the horror rebels express at the suggestion of black soldiers being employed for the National defence.” If blacks were accepted as combatants and brothers-in-arms in the confederate army then why would the react with horror at the thought of meeting them in battle?”
I never said they were swapping spit, I just said you all are outright liars when you deny they fought. The good doctor (and you, apparently) prove that you are liars.
“Are you one of the editors there or just a contributor?”
I’m the one who proves what liars you all are when you get on this “no blacks ever served” campaign.
Here is a link to the confederate order of battle for 1st Bull Run. Can you please identify which were the black regiments? Extra credit if you can tell us which was the slave one and which was the free one.”
And that could be done, how? They had regular names then. There weren’t any John Muhammeds.
You might notice that every soldier in your picture is wearing full Union army uniforms. That’s because it’s actually a picture of a USCT outfit.”
USCT Outfit? What, you Yankees didn’t want to be with the Negroes? You great Emancipators?
“Frederick Douglass’ son was one of thousands of blac NCOs in the Union army. And there was only one NCO in all the confederate army? With all those thousands of black combat troops claimed?”
Lucky boy ... no one claimed that there were “thousands” ... but that the blacks who fought were, for the most part, “unofficially” combatants ... it was you ass hats claimed there were no NCO’s ... so ... you were wrong again, huh?
Yeah and the Union gave them choice assignments like Crater and Dead Angle. The non-soldiers were left to scavange behind Sherman’s war train or banned from northern towns by law.
In January 1865 (Lee) wrote, “Considering the relation of master and slave, controlled by humane laws and influenced by Christianity and an enlightened public sentiment, as the best that can exist between the white and black races while intermingled as at present in this country, I would deprecate any sudden disturbance of that relation unless it be necessary to avert a greater calamity to both. I should therefore prefer to rely upon our white population to preserve the ratio between our forces and those of the enemy, which experience has shown to be safe.”
Typical of the General who has to deal with politics. Not unlike Petreaus today, I believe he would have done things differently had he been able to.
Robert E. Lee vigorously opposed slavery and as early as 1856 made this statement: “There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil.”
Robert E. Lee did not own slaves. When his father-in-law died, Lee took over the management of the plantation his wife had inherited and immediately began freeing the slaves. By the time Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, every slave in Lee’s charge had been freed.
Notably, US Grant DID own a slave and didn’t free HIS slaves until 1865.
When do you plan on doing that?
“When do you plan on doing that?”
When do you plan on disproving anything? Or are you just the comic relief in the Southern Bashers Show?
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