You claim to have more training in food science and nutrition then him. What does that vast reservoir of knowledge lead you to believe is the reason we have obesity and diabetes near epidemic levels with all the other maladies related to them?
Curious minds want to know. BVB
Oh, good grief. Have you read nothing that I've written? Dr. Lustig, according to you guys, says that fructose metabolism is the same as ethanol metabolism and that it creates all sorts of toxic effects, including NAFLD. That isn't true and I find it hard to believe that a man with his training would say such a thing. You also claim he said that fructose is metabolized immediately into fat. If so, that statement would highlight a gross misunderstanding of fructose metabolism, especially the citric acid cycle.
Father of Five also said this:
It does no such thing.
It does no such thing.
If fructose was supposed to stimulate the release of insulin, it would. This is a meaningless statement.
Did you/he mean to say that the over-consumption of fructose leads to weight gain? Again, your misunderstanding of fructose metabolism causes you to say things that don't make sense.
Do these statements belong to you or do they come from Lustig? I'm curious to know who the misinformed party is. I don't have time to slog my way through 90 minutes of his lecture, dig up his research and look at all the supporting literature. I don't think you two understand what Lustig is saying so it makes it difficult to defend him on the forum.
I could invest a great deal of time and effort explaing why the statements above are misguided but you wouldn't understand much of it and nothing I offer would change your minds.
Lustig wants to indict one chemical for obesity, and the many afflictions that result from obesity, with little consideration given to the fact that it's the increase in caloric consumption, mostly from carbohydrates, and a decrease in physical activity, that is responsible for the problems he cites in his lecture.
What does that vast reservoir of knowledge lead you to believe is the reason we have obesity and diabetes near epidemic levels with all the other maladies related to them?
My knowledge of the subject prevents me from blaming a single factor like Lustig does. Lustig cites studies touting consumption of fructose that have no relationship to real world usages. If you overwhelm the body with anything, adverse health effects will occur. It is a proven method for obtaining grant money but provides nothing in the way of truth.
Much of the problems we see today can be attributed to obesity. Obesity is caused by people consuming too many calories while leading a sedentary lifestyle. Michael Phelps consumes 12,000 calories a day when in training and much of those calories come from carbs. He consumes a lot more fructose than the average American and he's ripped. If you place a rat on a treadmill for 10 hours a day and feed it fructose for the majority of its diet, it will not gain weight. In India and China, obesity (and the many subsequent maladies that result) is rapidly increasing yet their diets are not nearly as high in fructose as are the western diets. Mexico and England are also experiencing a rapid increase in obesity, and obesity related diseases, yet we find little HFCS in the foods they consume. I would love to hear Lustig address this contradiction.
I don't know what motivates Lustig and, quite frankly, I don't really care. I do know what motivates a guy like Michael Jacobson and he (and his organization) should be a cause for concern among all people who value truth and freedom. Like Lustig, Jacobson is highly intelligent and well educated in life science. But there he is alarming the public and using junk science to achieve his desired ends. And people who don't know what they're talking about will defend his conclusions here all day long.
Go figure.