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To: Onelifetogive
"Of course that can also trigger a placebo effect."

I nearly died and I had "last rites" administered to me. Several weeks later when I woke up and I was told many people I didn't know had prayed for me over time (remotely) and I recovered to the amazement of my doctors. I never heard any of the prayers but I recovered. Prior to this experience I might have considered a placebo effect but not after that.

17 posted on 08/05/2010 8:02:26 AM PDT by Dem Guard (The + IRS = Theirs)
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To: Dem Guard
Prior to this experience I might have considered a placebo effect but not after that.

The Placebo Effect is obviously and incontrovertibly effective. That does not mean that prayer (up close and personal) is not also effective.

18 posted on 08/05/2010 8:25:25 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (For the record, McCarthy was right.)
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