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Kenyans vote on constitution with hopes for big change
Los Angeles Times / latimes.com ^ | August 4, 2010|4:49 p.m. | By Robyn Dixon, Los Angeles Times

Posted on 08/04/2010 8:40:03 PM PDT by thecodont

Reporting from Naivasha, Kenya — It may be wishful thinking, but many Kenyans believe a new constitution will cure poverty, slash prices on goods, create jobs, punish corrupt politicians, recover land lost decades ago, bring freedom, investment, tribal peace, higher salaries for common people, lower salaries for politicians — and, according to at least one voter, even make it rain.

Kenyans tired of decades of corrupt governance voted Wednesday on a proposed new constitution that generated a load of expectations.

Though it might not fix everything that people hope, analysts and politicians who supported the document, which was expected to win voter approval, said it could change Kenya forever. It could end decades of corruption, poor governance and tribalism in politics and public service, as well as curb the sweeping presidential powers that many see as the country's biggest problem.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: kenya; kenyaconstitution
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dbski4it at 11:42 AM August 04, 2010
Do you have to be born in kenya to be president?

1 posted on 08/04/2010 8:40:04 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont; potlatch; PhilDragoo; devolve; bitt; Lady Jag

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704702304575403314106378340.html

Biden visited Kenya in June to campaign for the proposed draft of the Kenyan constitution.

Well into the article is this nugget:

“The document also tackles the controversial issues of abortion, Islamic courts and land distribution. It allows, for example, the state to seize property for the benefit of the state, and gives parliament the mandate to enact land reform to address inequities and corruption.”

White House has spent $23 million on Kenya Constitution Vote.

http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/White-House-Spent-2423-Million-on-Kenya-Constitution-Vote.aspx


2 posted on 08/04/2010 9:00:16 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: thecodont

I hope they stop dumping their trash over here!


3 posted on 08/04/2010 9:01:32 PM PDT by Tagurit (Are your pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?)
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To: thecodont
This really could have been datelined Washington DC, January 2009...

It may be wishful thinking, but many Americans believe a new president will cure poverty, slash prices on goods, create jobs, punish corrupt politicians, recover land lost decades ago, bring freedom, investment, global peace, higher salaries for common people, lower salaries for politicians — and, according to at least one voter, even pay my mortgage and gas bill.

4 posted on 08/04/2010 9:02:56 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ntnychik; thecodont

We have a friend who is from Kenya and recently received this report:

“Please pray for Kenya as she defines herself with the approval or disapproval of the proposed constitution which has brought up much division than unity.

It is our prayer that God would open our eyes to see the hidden agendas that seem to favor Islamism in Kenya with inclusion of the Kadhi courts and their exclusion from the bill of rights which is the back bone of the whole constitution.”

Yes, Obama has spent $23 million in Kenya to insure that Islam has free reign and is not obligated to follow the law of the land in Kenya.

Gee, thanks Kenyan!


5 posted on 08/04/2010 9:05:35 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: thecodont

I’ve had enough already of Kenyan Hope and Change.


6 posted on 08/04/2010 9:05:56 PM PDT by DHSMostWanted (Thankful the Founding Fathers committed Treason against the Crown)
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To: thecodont

Great find! LOL


7 posted on 08/04/2010 9:25:45 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: thecodont

They should let us know if they need a natural born citzen for their president. We’ve got one they can have.


8 posted on 08/04/2010 9:33:33 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: thecodont

Its late and I have had a couple of drinks, and so I mis-read this post to read: Votes for Kagan hoping for big constitutional changes.


9 posted on 08/04/2010 9:33:49 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: thecodont
I commend devolution. Those who fear devolution are living in the past. They are being guided by their ethnic consideration and objectives. They are living in the past. If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America? It is because they did away with exclusion.

Speaker: The Minister for Lands (Mr. Orengo).
From Kenyan Parliament debate, March 25 2010, page 31.

10 posted on 08/04/2010 9:38:59 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: thecodont

So, when’s the next presidential election? At the moment there’s a power-sharing agreement between Kibaki and Odinga (Obama’s play-cousin). Smells like a power-play by the muslim/socialist Odinga! Will there be renewed violence? Silly me! What a question!


11 posted on 08/04/2010 9:49:53 PM PDT by old school
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To: thecodont

A constitution means nothing if you don’t have a judiciary that’s willing to enforce it, as we’re finding out.


12 posted on 08/04/2010 9:51:52 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Bodleian_Girl
I am Kenyan. Reading that comment makes me both smile and clench! The Kadhi courts ARE ALREADY in the current constitution. That section was simply not changed in the new proposed constitution. Another issue that seems to be getting a lot of mileage is that the new proposed constitution will allow abortion. Another lie, because that is only allowed if the life of the mother is at risk ...the same as the CURRENT constitution.

There has been a lot of misinformation on both sides ...and a lot of money from outside Kenya going to support both sides. Anyways, the decision is up to the Kenyans, and they voted en masse yesterday. Most are not voting because of Kadhi courts that are included in the old and proposed new constitution, or abortion bills that are included in both the old and new constitution. For most it is to curtail the political nonsense that has been holding back a country that, for all its growth, would have grown far faster without idiots running it.

Anyways, preliminary results are coming out, and it seems that the Yes camp (supporting the new constitution) are at around 66% against 33% for the No camp. A thoroughly solid margin of difference.

As for the introduction of 'Islamism' in Kenya ...that's the funny part.

13 posted on 08/04/2010 9:53:00 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: thecodont

Maybe they will have an Article 2, Section II stating that a prodigal son can come back and be exhalted or whatever they are going to call their leaders, erh, looters.


14 posted on 08/04/2010 10:03:36 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: thecodont

This is a style of country Obummer would accel in running. Mindless dopes who love a dictator. The added bonus would be that he would feel at home too.


15 posted on 08/04/2010 10:32:01 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA
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To: thecodont

There won’t be unless it’s more slavery if Obama is involved.


16 posted on 08/04/2010 11:34:49 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: spetznaz

I suppose it’s only funny when ones finds one self it it’s sights.


17 posted on 08/05/2010 9:32:12 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: ntnychik

Thanks nit, you are always up to date on good info.


18 posted on 08/07/2010 2:24:22 PM PDT by potlatch (<alt=)
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