Poppy and Junior both brought in elitist Liberals which is what they are with -R after there names just like other like Rudy, Bloomberg, Specter, Lindsey Graham, Snowe, Collins, Lott, Newt, and a host of others uincluding John McCain as well. There wasn't that much real policy differences in Bush/Clinton/Bush any more than there was a major difference between Ford and Jimmy Carter. Bush's are like Ford the ones of the Ford/Rockefeller GOP. Just enough conservatism on a few issues that the MSM labels them conservative.
Bush SR has been called Poppy by many if not a majority of FR poster and most FR posters have little use for Poppy's policies. Poppy in his four short years as POTUS started problems unseen since the Ford years actually worse one on readiness. By mid 1993 one carrier was in such deplorable shape that the senior enlisted wrote to his congressman to complain. The senior enlisted was an E-9. Poppy may have been a war hero but neither him nor Cheney know beans about military readiness.
I know what you will say the letter was written in mid 1993 under Clinton. True but the detioration which cause it started over a year or more earlier. An issue so severe that after a third deployment without the needed repairs the ship had a boiler room explosion upon return to the USA in 1994. Three six plus month deployments in three years time. Ever worked around 1200 PSI boilers before? A leak the size of a #2 pencil lead can cut your head off and you can't hear that leak.
So what bad policies under Clinton actually changed under Junior? Certainly not this one Different names with different -Letters after them but more of the same wrong policies. Can you imagine where we would be today had Bush actually showed Conservative Leadership in his 8 years and reduced government rather than one of the biggest expansions since LBJ? Can you imagine Zero not havibng the Department of Homeland Security, Precidents set by the Bush administration to try and keep databases on citizens legal and private communications, limited federal powers instead of expansion of them, addressed illegal immigration by securing our borders, a priority to make our nation self sufficent and encourage manufacturing within the USA rather than China?
But if you really want to get angry there are quite a few post I have made in here especially after his second term started calling Junior a Smirking Chimp.
Conservative Bush is a myth. His speaches in 2000 said he was anything else but a conservative. I read many of them. I disagreed with most of them as well.
Here's a post I made in 2002. The two house majority loss was preventable. Bush had leadership issues early on and with a leaderless GOP house and senate the party fell apart.
Hate Bush? No! Clinton? Yes indeed. But I do not hold him above public scrutiny either nor anybody else in the GOP, Dems, or whoever. They are our elected leaders answerable to us the voter. My post are seen as anti-GOP but I'm not that either. I support quite a few. The bad apples though I say toss them at all cost including holding majority status.
Ok as for Bush. He so far has done about what I figured he would. Weak with China, Encircling himself as his dad did with the same weak policy makers of the Bush Sr term. Actually I have more dislike for Cheney than Bush if you could call it dislike. I do not hold Cheney to the great military mind status so many others do. The Bush SR military was in trouble by the end of the Bush SR term. Military wise he was closer to Carter than Reagan.
I read the Bush platform and had problems with it early on. What he was saying and what others were saying he was saying were two different things. One example is the Second Amendment. There was post after post about the pro- 2nd Bush. But an honest read of his releases on the subject were far from it. Bush Jr isn't by any means the worst POTUS nor is he by any means close to the best. I put him in the same group as Lamar Alaxender the former governor of Tennessee who was elected to replace Ray Blanton the most corrupt man in our states history. He looked good when compared to Blanton but was at best a so so governor which is why I will support congressman Ed Bryant-R for the senate race over Alexander-R.
Lamar Alexander brings up another sore point. The White House and RNC, as well as Senator Frist {my senator BTW} should have stayed out of it till we held our state primaries. Alexander was anointed to succeed Fred Thompson before the words were barely uttered from Freds mouth about his retirement. This has substancially harmed Bryant {a Conservative Chances} in the primaries and for all practical ended as well the chances of anyone else namely a conservative canidate opposing Moderate Alexander. {A Bush Sr man BTW} In that respect Bush is doing the conservatives very dirty by supporting Moderates early on.
I think unless he receives strong chastising from conservatives G.W. Bush will give away the conservative farm so to speak. I think he's purposely disengaged himself and his administration from main stream conservatism. Bush could do a lot better but I honestly don't think he has enough smarts or self will to break away from the Ford/Bush Sr circle of big government liberal leaning advisors and cabinet members. Yes this might get him re-elected but in the mean time he is setting us up for some major problems in the future with his precedents. There are many programs I just assume government not start. Home Land security? A political favor made post opening the door to bigger government and yet another regulating agency. Faith Based Programs? Not needed or rather no government funded needed. A better solution is to just abolish the restrictions placed upon churches and let Uncle keep the dollar so Uncle is never running the pulpit.
The U.N.ICC what part of unconstitutional and Endangering Entanglements does this man not understand? But again he's not Clinton. But this is indeed worthy of remembering as well. Remember during the Bush/Gore debates when he stated him and Gore were not that far apart on many {most} {can't remember exact quotation} issues? This waves a big red flag he is a man to watch and when needed must be called on the political carpet on a lot of matters war or no war. Speaking of which Remember the Fast Track Trade Authority push? Right after 9/11 to be exact he tried to use it as an excuse to push through that bad piece of legislation.
I'll support the good GOP candidates. I'll do written flames on those who by their deeds and words need them. I stated the other day in a thread if Bush stands up to the U.N. and stops us from becoming accountable to the ICC I would consider it his greatest accomplishment. Now we face yet another year to once again have a POTUS rather than say we can not sign into such an agreement puts it off.
So who in 2004? As far as POTUS goes it will be Bush whether he is capable of winning or not. POTUS though is not the problem. The Legislative Branch is. It's a horrible mess and the life long seat warming RINO's need to be sent home political party be ****** for the good of this nation. When a majority of our United States Senators defended the corruption of Bill Clinton that alone speaks volumes. When our congress seeks indictments for adulterous affairs over a list of felonies and acts against this nation that compromise National Security we have a problem. Simply put my requirement for office isn't a party membership or party endorsement but a willingness on the candidates part to uphold, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States and actually do it.
1,371 posted on Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:45:59 PM by cva66snipe
You need help.