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Duncan Hunter Slams Proposition 8 Ruling for Subverting the Will of the People
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Posted on 08/04/2010 4:46:00 PM PDT by pissant

AJM: Today the Judge in the California Proposition 8 court case, just now, overturned the will of the people on prop 8.

DH: You have GOT to be kidding.

AJM: No, I’m not, though I’m sure it will be appealed.

DH: What on earth was his basis? We amended the darn constitution! First, we vote that it is only one man – one woman. Then they say, “no, the state constitution overrules you”. Then we say fine, we’ll amend the constitution!

AJM: Yep. Let me see if I can find it real quick what his reasoning was. Here it is. An article in the LA Times, all of 10 minutes old here. No, this one just says the proponents of 8 plan to appeal. But I think one of the main reasons why is that the judge is probably a little light in the loafers. Wait, here it is:

"Although Proposition 8 fails to possess even a rational basis, the evidence presented at trial shows that gays and lesbians are the type of minority strict scrutiny was designed to protect.”

“Plaintiffs do not seek recognition of a new right. To characterize plaintiffs' objective as "the right to same-sex marriage" would suggest that plaintiffs seek something different from what opposite-sex couples across the state enjoy -- namely, marriage. Rather, plaintiffs ask California to recognize their relationships for what they are: marriages."

In other words this clown is a true believer in homosexual rights, is what it comes down to.

DH: Yeah, it sure sounds like it.

AJM: You want to add anything to his statements.

DH: I want to look at his full ruling. But did he overrule them on the basis of the US Constitution?

AJM: No, not from what I can tell.

DH: I’m trying to read between the lines of what you just told me. That can’t be a reason! My point is we re-wrote the constitution, which is the supreme law of the state of California, for California. So if we say that this is a constitutional right or a constitutional mandate, you can’t usurp a constitutional provision with the constitution. (laughs). You can’t say one constitutional provision is rendered unconstitutional by another constitutional provision! So I’m trying to get my hands around what you just described to me. I’d have to look at the entire thing. Because right now, it makes no sense.

I’d have to look at the rationale. I’d say it’s clear that the court, this judge, is CLEARLY trying to usurp the will of the people.

AJM: Yeah, listen to this. Here’s the last sentence in this piece that they published here:

"Proposition 8 places the force of law behind stigmas against gays and lesbians, including: gays and lesbians do not have intimate relationships similar to heterosexual couples; gays and lesbians are not as good as heterosexuals; and gay and lesbian relationships do not deserve the full recognition of society."

DH: Well there just isn’t enough info here. But I know this. This proposition was a very strong manifestation of the will of the people of California. And the idea that this judge can come to the conclusion that they don’t need to have any other branches of government, that the court is now supreme, and that the people, manifesting their will, are an unnecessary part of California’s governance, is preposterous. But that’s what the guy is really saying.

There is no area in lawmaking which more directly ties the will of the people to legislation than legislation in which they directly vote on. That is different than having an elected representative who is part of a body vote for something. And then that particular piece of legislation is worked over by that body, then perhaps worked by another body – you have the state assembly and you have the state senate – and ultimately worked by another branch of government, which is the executive branch. When you have a referendum like prop 8, people themselves get to vote on a direct piece of legislation, un-amended and untainted by outside interests. And untainted by special interests, I might add. Because obviously we all know that the homosexual lobby - if you look at the laws in California - the homosexual lobby is much more powerful in Sacramento than it is in the electorate of California.

So here you had the most direct manifestation, incidentally as allowed in the state constitution, of government of the people, by the people and for the people. And that’s the direct vote by the people on a proposition. A proposition that was a constitutional amendment!

So basically, we have a nutty District Court judge substituting his own bias for the votes of millions of Californians. Another example of the danger posed by flagrant, liberal courts.


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Two men getting "married"? Say what?!?

1 posted on 08/04/2010 4:46:02 PM PDT by pissant
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To: 007girl; 230FMJ; abigailsmybaby; absolootezer0; afnamvet; Afronaut; airborne; ajolympian2004; ...

DH Ping


2 posted on 08/04/2010 4:46:56 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Damn.....Pisser for once you’re on the right side of an issue...both Duncan and I are proud of you!


3 posted on 08/04/2010 4:48:01 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: pissant
The judge is a homosexual.

The judge was appointed by GHW Bush.

The will of the people be damned!

4 posted on 08/04/2010 4:48:01 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: pissant

In Case you missed these:

Duncan Hunter – July 29, 2010: Arizona Politics, Obama’s Corrupt Amnesty Plan & Beautiful People

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2561912/posts

Duncan Hunter Interview 07-20-10: Barry & Hugo, the Monroe Doctrine & a Patriot Pop Quiz

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2557510/posts

Duncan Hunter Interview 07-16-10, Pt II: Obama’s Immigration Fraud and Some American Heroes

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2557375/posts

Duncan Hunter Interview 07-16-10, Part 1: Uncle Fester, Mitt Romney, and taming the EPA Monster

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2555621/posts

Duncan Hunter Takes on Obama’s Planned Executive Order Amnesty and Elena Kagan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2544451/posts

Duncan Hunter 6/22/10 Interview PART 2: Joe Barton vs. The Hypocrits & Arizona vs. Obama

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2541291/posts

Duncan Hunter 6/22/10 Part 1: Iraq Reality vs. The Wash. Post & Gen. McChrystal Vs. Obama

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2540963/posts

Duncan Hunter interview 6/9/10: CA Elections, ‘Virtual Appearances’, Chicom Dangers, and more!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2536020/posts

Duncan Hunter talks War: The Korean flareup, Vietnam, and Leftwing Disgraces - Interview 5/26/10

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2522373/posts

Tradin’ with Reagan and Gaggin’ on Kagan: Duncan Hunter Interview May 17, 2010, Part II

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2517498/posts

On Knuckleheaded Apologies, Russia & Iran, and Border Politics: Duncan Hunter 5/17/10, Part I

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2516378/posts

A very, very Brief Conversation with Duncan Hunter: 5/17/10 - Chuck DeVore endorsement!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2515430/posts

Duncan Hunter FR Exclusive: On Gunny Pop, Chuck DeVore, Car Bombers, Anchor Babies and more!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2509921/posts

Duncan Hunter on GOP & Tea Party Politics, Rick Perry and Ilegal Aliens

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Duncan Hunter 4/8/10: Obama’s Nuke Puke, Stimulating Russia Jobs, and that Evil Oil

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2490025/posts

Duncan Hunter Talks 4/1/10: Shooting Donkeys, Phony v. Real Protests, & McCain’s ‘border security’!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2485034/posts

Duncan Hunter Takes Obama, Biden and Grahamnesty to the Woodshed & More!(Interview 3/19/10)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2475394/posts

Duncan Hunter Interview 3-5-2010: On Obama the Apostrate, The Reagan Doctrine, and Aging Hippies

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2465638/posts

Duncan Hunter Interview 2/24/2010 – McCain v Hayworth, O’Reilly v 2A, w/cameo from Gunny Pop

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2458713/posts

Duncan Hunter Slams the Obama Adminstration over push for Gays in the Military

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2444696/posts

Duncan Hunter Slams Obama’s SOTU! 1-28-2010 Interview

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2439864/posts

Duncan Hunter Interview – 1/21/2010: Mass. Miracle, Obama, Cheney, Jobs, McCain-Feingold & More!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2435091/posts

Duncan Hunter Interview 1-8-2010: GOP Primary Politics, JD Hayworth, Panty Bomber and FOOTBALL

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2425011/posts

Duncan Hunter Interview - Dec. 18, 2009: On Christmas Blessings, the Gay Agenda, and Don Rumsfeld

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2412548/posts

Duncan Hunter Interview - Dec 8, 2009: On Huckabee, the EPA, GOP Amnesty Hacks, and Harry Reid!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2404824/posts

Duncan Hunter Interview 12-01-2009: Obama’s Weak Speech, SEALS, ClimateGate, and Shrinking Uncle Sam

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2398503/posts

Duncan Hunter Interview 11-17-09: Terrorist Trials in NY, Amnesty, Sarah Palin and More!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2391044/posts

Duncan Hunter Interview 11-10-09: Gunny Pop, Afghanistan, Terrorism & Political Correctness!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2384405/posts

Duncan Hunter – Nov. 4, 2009: On the 2009 Elections, Global Warming Alarmists, and Ronald Reagan!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2378862/posts

Duncan Hunter – October 27, 2009: On ObamaCare, RomneyCare and Americans!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2372627/posts

Duncan Hunter 10/9/09 Interview. Bomb Iran, confront China, and work to defeat Socialism!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2360735/posts


5 posted on 08/04/2010 4:48:49 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

A “gay” judge decides that banning “gay marriage” is un-gaylike? ROTFL!!! This so-called judge is a real buffoon. A “gay” buffoon at that!


6 posted on 08/04/2010 4:50:44 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Ich bin ein illegal alien! - Barry Obama standing up with Central and South America against Arizona.)
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To: TexasCajun
The judge is a homosexual. The judge was appointed by GHW Bush. Guess the good Pres missed a penis slurper...imagine that......given the size of this country...hell he should have interviewed all of those folks personally.....even though it's about 10 layers below his immediate circle of advisors.
7 posted on 08/04/2010 4:53:01 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

For once? LOL


8 posted on 08/04/2010 4:53:24 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

And a rank marxist, from the sounds of it.


9 posted on 08/04/2010 4:55:19 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: TexasCajun

Ruling a constitutional amendment is unconstitutional takes the cake.


10 posted on 08/04/2010 4:56:11 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

They set aside prop 187 as well.

They will set aside Prop C in Missouri as well.

Voting is a 100% wasted effort.

There is only one way to enforce the US Constitution.


11 posted on 08/04/2010 4:57:22 PM PDT by NoLibZone (If we could remove bad representatives through voting, voting would have been made illegal by now.)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
Just facts of the case I learned today.

No need to be sarcastic.

12 posted on 08/04/2010 4:57:36 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: pissant

GWB picked this gay clown. The judge should have recused himself from this.

After the decision came down, the fairies were dancing in the streets.


13 posted on 08/04/2010 4:58:53 PM PDT by dforest
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To: NoLibZone

It’s starting to look that way.


14 posted on 08/04/2010 4:58:58 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

I heard Bill Bennett on his morning radio show, when told about the upcoming Prop 8 decision, say, “now which one is that?... oh ... yeah!” What is going on with these “conservatives” that don’t keep up. (shaking head)


15 posted on 08/04/2010 5:00:07 PM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: pissant
Some days I regret the day I woke up from my adolescence indifference.

But no turning back now. ..we're in the fight of our lives for the country we love.

16 posted on 08/04/2010 5:00:53 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: fwdude

No wonder he was drooling over Rudy last time round.


17 posted on 08/04/2010 5:01:34 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: TexasCajun

Yep. This Republic is in imminent danger from within.


18 posted on 08/04/2010 5:14:11 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

my first reaction when I heard of this ruling was “ Why the Flip to we even bother voting, if some dopey judge is going to overturn the ballot box?!!!!”

This happened with Prop 187 too!!

And the Dems keep crying every vote most count, SHEEZ!!


19 posted on 08/04/2010 5:14:36 PM PDT by blastdad51 (Typical middle-aged white patriot.)
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To: blastdad51

We are at the boiling point.


20 posted on 08/04/2010 5:15:42 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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