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Southern Jews and the Confederacy
Jewish Press ^ | Jul 28 2010 | Lewis Regenstein

Posted on 08/04/2010 5:34:10 AM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 08/04/2010 5:34:11 AM PDT by SJackson
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Unfortunately this is often a sensitive subject on FR, but the focus of the article is the author's, and the region's, remembrance. My ancestors may have faced his on the field, but I've no problem with it.

The only Jewish military cemetary outside Israel, Richmond, Va.


2 posted on 08/04/2010 5:38:40 AM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: SJackson
Revisionist history at it's worst. Article is total nonsense on the facts.

http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2007/10/abraham_lincoln_and_the_jews.html

Abraham Lincoln and the Jews
October 17th, 2007 by Steven Aftergood

In a remarkable episode from the Civil War that is not as widely known as it might be, General Ulysses S. Grant issued Order No. 11 on December 17, 1862 expelling all Jews from those portions of Kentucky, Tennessee, and Mississippi where his forces had taken the field.

Equally remarkable, President Lincoln did not say he would “stand by” his generals or that “we must give the military the tools it needs” to accomplish its mission. Instead, he rescinded the Order.

3 posted on 08/04/2010 5:42:57 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: SJackson
To claim they were not fighting for slavery is to try and rewrite history to fit current PC political dogmas. It is an absurd argument that has no validity in historic facts.

It was not “State Rights” that motivated Davis, Stephens, Ruffin, et al.

It was not “State Rights” that lead a SC Congressmen to beat a Massachusetts Senator to the edge of death on the Senate floor.

It was not “State Rights” that brought Abraham Lincoln back into politics in the 1850

It was not “State Rights” that caused men to butcher each other in “Bleeding Kansas”.

It was not “State Rights” that lead John Brown to raid Harper’s Ferry.

No issue but Slavery lead men to political violence in the antebellum period. Without Slavery all other issues between the North and South could be dealt with in the normal political progress. Only Slavery is the “irreconcilable difference” that makes it impossible to forge a political solution.

To ignore the facts of that period to create a faux history in order to justify current political dogmas is not only utterly stupid from a public relations stand point, it is also intellectually dishonest and serious damages the movements credibility with the voting public.

We on the Right routinely decry the attempt by the Left to rewrite history to justify their current political dogmas. We should not do it either.

That Slavery was fundamental issue that split the North and the South in the Civil War is just plain fact

4 posted on 08/04/2010 5:46:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: SJackson

Great article...thanks for posting it...my g-grandfather was in I Company.23rd S.C. infantry and knew the Moses family...one of the Moses men who died has his name inscribed on the Confederate monument in Sumpter,SC...I applaud Lewis Regenstein for writing this article, because I’m sure he will be further attacked by Jews and Gentiles alike...

PS....the only Jewish military cemetary outside Israel is in Richmond and there lie Jewish Confederates.


5 posted on 08/04/2010 5:47:16 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: SJackson
You should at least be aware of the other side of this particular story...

It is not to be doubted, I know with absolute certainty, that the separation of the United States into two federations of equal powers had been decided upon well in advance of the Civil War by the top financial power of Europe. -- OTTO VON BISMARCK, Chancellor, Germany.

For the Southerners to have aligned themselves on the side of the Rothschilds and English mercantilists against Lincoln was entirely similar to somebody aligning with the English in the revolutionary war. You can't really expect a whole lot of mercy or sympathy when you do stuff like that.

6 posted on 08/04/2010 5:48:10 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: SJackson

Excellent article! I lived in the South most of my adult life (originally from Michigan) - the only thing I didn’t like about living there is the oppressive heat...it made my yankee DNA shut down. I had a visitor from Ghana in the early 1970s who told me that he much preferred the South to the North because you knew where you stood in the South. In the North the bigots were more subtle in their hate and hypocrisy.


7 posted on 08/04/2010 5:53:42 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: MNJohnnie
Who made the following statement?:

"Fear is the beginning of wisdom."

  1. Adolf Hitler
  2. Osama Bin Laden
  3. W. T. Sherman
  4. Pol Pot

8 posted on 08/04/2010 5:57:53 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SJackson

Excellent article. Thank you for posting.


9 posted on 08/04/2010 5:59:19 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: MNJohnnie
Please, let us fight again that terrible war with all its pride and atrocity. As a Southerner I am still aggrieved at the bloody hands of the north. The Tea Party is the closest to proof since that time that the South shall rise again. Perhaps this time we can carry the day and end the tyranny of the Northern (read liberal) aggressors.
10 posted on 08/04/2010 6:00:27 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (They are the vultures in Dark Crystal screeeching their hatred and fear into the void of their malig)
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To: MNJohnnie

Cloaking cheap labor in the guise of something more noble is nothing new and in fact quite similar to the open borders/amnesty crowd’s rationalizations today.


11 posted on 08/04/2010 6:03:19 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: SJackson

The straight scoop...for those few w/the eyes and ears who can bear the truth...

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/%E2%80%9Ci-agree-with-clyde-wilson-that-america-can%E2%80%99t-be-saved-or-returned-to-its-roots-until-the-republican-party-is-destroyed-%E2%80%9D/


12 posted on 08/04/2010 6:03:22 AM PDT by gunnyg (WE ARE BEHIND "ENEMY WITHIN" LINES, SURROUNDED, Our 'Novembers' Are Behind Us...If Ya Can "grok" it!)
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To: wendy1946

Strange. People in 2010 have talked of secession to escape an intrusive federal government but it couldn’t have happened in 1860. Oh, well we weren’t there. I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle. One more thing. Look at who writes the history books. Should be a no brainer.


13 posted on 08/04/2010 6:04:29 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: SJackson

Jewish Confederate BUMP.


14 posted on 08/04/2010 6:05:07 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Amos the Prophet; MNJohnnie

If we have CW II, what will be the heathen Yankee liberal excuse for invasion, rape and pillage? Slavery is gone, what will it be then? I leave that question for some Yankee scum to answer.....


15 posted on 08/04/2010 6:05:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Amos the Prophet
the South shall rise again

And do what? Lose again?

16 posted on 08/04/2010 6:05:55 AM PDT by frithguild (Joe Wilson was wrong when he shouted "You lie!" Obama doesn't just lie - he lies all the time.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Equally remarkable, President Lincoln did not say he would “stand by” his generals or that “we must give the military the tools it needs” to accomplish its mission. Instead, he rescinded the Order.

I guess you didn't read the article:

On January 4, 1863, President Lincoln had Grant's order rescinded, but by then Jewish families in the area had been expelled, humiliated, terrified, jailed, and in some cases stripped of their possessions.
The construction of the words in your comment is extremely disingenuous. "Lincoln did not say ..." Lincoln did not say a lot of things. He didn't say anything about wanting to travel to Siam either.

ML/NJ

17 posted on 08/04/2010 6:07:00 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: MNJohnnie
That Slavery was fundamental issue that split the North and the South in the Civil War is just plain fact

You sound like the MSM today: "The unpopularity of Obama's policies are racism."
18 posted on 08/04/2010 6:07:36 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: central_va

Proverbs 9:10


19 posted on 08/04/2010 6:10:29 AM PDT by frithguild (Joe Wilson was wrong when he shouted "You lie!" Obama doesn't just lie - he lies all the time.)
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To: frithguild

Ahhh, no. You see, now we have all the guns. While the north was busy disarming themselves we were busy arming ourselves. And the north is probably outnumbered because they have aborted all their babies. And of course gay men are probably too busy worrying about decorating and fashion to fight a war.


20 posted on 08/04/2010 6:11:50 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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