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Lolo Soetoro U.S. Records - Allen v DHS State and Allen v USCIS - FOIA Releases Final 7-29-10
US State Department ^ | 29 July 2010 | unknown

Posted on 08/03/2010 3:23:40 PM PDT by bushpilot1

Recent FOIA documents reveal Obama may be Born in Hawaii.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; fraud; hawaii; lolosoetoro; naturalborncitizen; obama; usurper
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To: wintertime

Page 99 presents a birth certificate from Topeka, Kansas. I cannot read all the wording except that the mother is Stanley A. and the date is July 1959. Is this a second birth certificate for Obama?


121 posted on 08/03/2010 5:06:07 PM PDT by robert14
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To: bushpilot1; Greenperson; little jeremiah
Now THAT is interesting, in AUGUST 1967:

THERE IS NOTHING IN THE FILE TO DOCUMENT THE STATUS OF THE SPOUSE'S SON...


122 posted on 08/03/2010 5:13:20 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Raycpa
From the 40th document of the link dated 8/21/1967:

"There is nothing in the file to document the status of the spouse’s son. Please inquire into his citizenship and residence status....."

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The linked website is not loading. Is there any way you can post an image of that page?

123 posted on 08/03/2010 5:13:46 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Proof is forgery and lack of proof is proof of conspiracy.

It will take some decades to rewrite the history of our founding. Unless Obama can come up with an alternative father, he is not a constitutional president. If he had a citizen father, as some have anticipated, Marshall Davis or Malcolm X for example, his stated belief that his father was a British subject making Barry a British subject at birth shows his intent to defraud his supporters and all voters. His Harvard Constitutional Law professor, a professor for whom he worked as a student assistant, Larry Tribe, is an expert who sat on Obama’s election committee; there can be no doubt that he well understood the provision established by John Jay and George Washington, and affirmed by John Marshall, Morrison Waite, and Charles Evans Hughes, all chief justices, and 14th Amendment author John Bingham.

The proof has been public since before the 2008 election. Ignorance of this proof depends upon the instinct to belive and desire to belong to the dominant class. Fortunately many U.S. citizens have become suspicious of the Ruling Class, and are learning about a previously obscure part of our history - the thinking and intents of our founders and framers.

124 posted on 08/03/2010 5:23:33 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: PghBaldy

I think that you are right about the framers, but current legal opinion, informed by the 14th Amendment seems to think otherwise. In fact, I think that the current bar and Judiciary thinks that the whole NBC clause is silly.


125 posted on 08/03/2010 5:40:05 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: 23 Everest

Didn’t indent the last paragraph either.


126 posted on 08/03/2010 6:01:30 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: El Gato
Date on the statement that BO was born in Hawaii, Sept. 14, 1967. Date on first page, which states there is no evidence in the file of such birth status, October 6, 1967. Sounds like someone claimed that date and place of birth, but did not document it. Hmm.

Good Observation that went right over the head of the dingleberry you adressed it to.

127 posted on 08/03/2010 6:04:27 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Spaulding
Fortunately many U.S. citizens have become suspicious of the Ruling Class, and are learning about a previously obscure part of our history - the thinking and intents of our founders and framers.

and more U.S. citizens are recognizing them for what they really are: the Lawless Ruling Class.

128 posted on 08/03/2010 6:12:46 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

I just notice they were unable to come up with proof of marriage for BO Sr and Stanley Ann. (They did produce the ivorce decree)

I also just noticed on page 3 of the other docs [http://www.scribd.com/doc/35161730/Stanley-Ann-Dunham-Obama-Soetoro-Passport-Application-File-Strunk-v-Dept-of-State-FOIA-Release-FINAL-7-29-10] that Stanley Ann gave the name “Stanley Armour Dunham, Bank of America, Honolulu” as emergency contact. Not Mrs Dunham. I did not realize he worked at the Bank of Hawaii. I thought he sold furniture.


129 posted on 08/03/2010 6:15:14 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (.)
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To: Raycpa; bushpilot1
I couldn't get page 40 to load -- yet. But page 48 has a similar "There is nothing in the file to document the status of the spouse's son..." statement:

Has anyone found a reply to that request?


130 posted on 08/03/2010 6:22:36 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Fred Nerks; El Gato; Spaulding

111 pages were located, 83 pages were released, 7 pages withheld and 16 pages referred to the State Department for a direct response to the FOIA requester.


131 posted on 08/03/2010 6:27:58 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: TXnMA; bushpilot1

TXnMA - could you please take a look at this page, just received a Freepmail - but I dont know how to transfer the doc referred to in the message:

Page 78 out of 97

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35189898/Lolo-Soetoro-U-S-Records-Allen-v-DHS-State-and-Allen-v-USCIS-FOIA-Releases-Final-7-29-10

“Reason not completed
Evidence submitted by applicant and wife re: wife’s former marriage not submitted”

(Would be interesting to see the reply if there was one.)


132 posted on 08/03/2010 6:35:50 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Uncle Chip

And when did these two documents arrive at the same place? In the era of mail, distribution, inboxes, outboxes, people on vacation, its hard to say.

But, Uncle Chip knows. He’s a genius in these things. If there is a question that needs an answer, Uncle Chip is your man. Thanks, Uncle Chip.


133 posted on 08/03/2010 6:43:53 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Fact: If a person is a natural born citizen it is a **SIMPLE** and inexpensive matter to prove.

Fact: Obama has not released the original best evidence that would prove or disprove his natural born status.

134 posted on 08/03/2010 6:55:19 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: centurion316

Oh don’t get your panties in a wad over what you refer to as a “birther inquisition”.


135 posted on 08/03/2010 6:57:42 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: centurion316
Fact: If a person is a natural born citizen it is a **SIMPLE** and inexpensive matter to prove.

Fact: Obama has not released the original best evidence that would prove or disprove his natural born status.

Fact: A **real**, natural born, American citizen would be **HONORED** to promptly prove with the best evidence that he was natural born and eligible to be president and Commander in Chief.

Fact: A fraud and usurper would act like Obama.

136 posted on 08/03/2010 6:58:46 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks for the answer, I knew that we could count on you.


137 posted on 08/03/2010 7:01:11 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: wintertime

I’m not sure that all of this if fact, but they are certainly interesting observations. I don’t think that Mr. Obama intends to cooperate and provide his records. That poses a bit of a problem, doesn’t it. He was elected President and no one can prove or disprove that he was born in Hawaii. So, I guess that we just have to go with what you think. Or, should we go with what somebody else thinks? Should we hold a lottery and go with what the winner thinks? Maybe the courts can solve this, but that’s been tried 71 times and has gotten nowhere. If Obama’s intent was to poke a stick in our eye, it looks like he has succeeded.


138 posted on 08/03/2010 7:14:18 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Fred Nerks
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139 posted on 08/03/2010 7:23:02 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1; Greenperson
7 pages withheld...

oh boy, now who's going to go through the entire SCIBD file and find the SEVEN QUESTIONS we can't find answers to?

140 posted on 08/03/2010 7:26:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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