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To: SmokingJoe; Swordmaker
Apple Q1 iPhone sales = 8.75 million Apple Q 2 iPhone sales = 8.4 million

Yep, Q2 is low. People in the US held off buying until the iPhone 4, but probably a good percentage of them still got their phone within the quarter. But all of the international customers were still waiting for their iPhone 4. Their purchases will be recorded in 3Q. Apple has the bulk of high initial iPhone sales, and the high initial international sales, to record on Q3.

I do wonder how well Blackberry and Android would be faring if not for all those "buy one get one free" specials. That's how my one-Android purchase in Q1 turned into two.

Ummm..no.

Ummmm, yes. YOUR source said Android devices, not Android phones. Android runs on a lot more than phones. Feel free to disagree with your own source.

Using my numbers, a company that only entered the ssmartphone business just 2 years ago, and only had a markettshare of a tiny 2.8% a year ago in Q2, has managed to swiftly overtake the iPhone

Wow, that's some kind of spin. Now look at reality:

A consortium of powerful companies (Google, Dell, Intel), including many established in the phone business (Motorola, Qualcomm, TI, Samsung, LG, T-Mobile, Sony Ericsson, Toshiba, Sprint, China Mobile, NTT DoCoMo, Vodafone) produces and manages the OS and makes sure it gets to phones manufactured most of the powerful, established phone makers (LG, Motorola, Samsung, Sony Ericsson, etc.), plus a newer big one (HTC), who have existing sales agreements with all of the major carriers in the world.

Most of the long-established bullies on the block ganged up on the new kid who threatened their income. Wow, I'm not surprised they had some measure of success. With this kind of backing, there was no way Android could fail to have massive adoption unless it were complete garbage rejected by the consumer.

The impressive success story is how a lone company that had never itself made a phone managed to completely revolutionize the smart phone market and garner a large marketshare despite being one manufacturer on only one carrier in the US (one that still sells the iPhone's competition).

The Blackberry story is pretty impressive too. The Android story was inevitable. Android isn't an underdog succeeding against long odds. Android is the establishment's choice being right where they want it to be.

Its great fun watching the Applebots

You have been warned about such language.

64 posted on 08/04/2010 7:05:49 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Yep, Q2 is low.

Chortle!
Trying to reason with a fanatic is like talking to brick wall.
Reality : Q2 is only 4% lower than Q1.
Given that even in other consumer electronics products like video game consoles, Q1 2010 sales far outpaced Q2 2010 sales (Q1 still has some of the Christmas sales momentum in it), even with no new consoles introduced in Q2, your Apple's Q 2 was “abnormally low” excuse has been proven to be false.

People in the US held off buying until the iPhone 4, but probably a good percentage of them still got their phone within the quarter. “

Whatever percentage of “people” who supposedly “held off” buying iPhones earlier in Q2 (and I am yet t see any official figures from anyone backing that up), would have been more than compensated for by higher than normal launch sales of iPhone 4’s, like most new phones experience during their launch Windows.
Plus, like I have repeatedly pointed out to you, hot new Androids like the Droid X, Galaxy etc were launched very late in Q2/early Q3 as well, and that never stopped Androids from clobbering the iPhones.
You excuses are irrelevant, immaterial and incompetent(to paraphrase Perry Mason).

71 posted on 08/04/2010 12:19:17 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: antiRepublicrat
A consortium of powerful companies (Google, Dell, Intel), including many established in the phone business (Motorola, Qualcomm, TI, Samsung, LG, T-Mobile, Sony Ericsson, Toshiba, Sprint, China Mobile, NTT DoCoMo, Vodafone) produces and manages the OS and makes sure it gets to phones manufactured most of the powerful, established phone makers (LG, Motorola, Samsung, Sony Ericsson, etc.), plus a newer big one (HTC), who have existing sales agreements with all of the major carriers in the world.

Say tell me...exactly how much sales has Dell ever had in cell phones of any kind?
What about Intel? How much sales have Intel chips ever had in the smartphone business?
And while we are about it before Google entered the smartphone business 2 years ago, what sales had Google ever had in the cell phone/smartphone business?
And before we forget, two years ago, didn't Nokia control close to 50% of all cell phones(and way over 50% of smartphones) sold on the planet? And has Nokia ever used Android? Nope.
Yet Android, from standing start just 2 years ago, is busy clobbering apple every quarter in smartphone sales. Two years ago, no one even believed such a thing was possible. After all, Windows Mobile had all these firms you mention, and still got nowhere. This stunning performance by Android (886% increase in sales abd overtaking the iPhone worldwide and overtaking RIM in the US), is by far the single most impressive thing I have seen in smartphone sales ever. And the beating on the iPhone market share is only going to get worse.

73 posted on 08/04/2010 1:03:59 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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