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To: Vendome
God does not ordain Shaman faith healing.

Jesus and the Apostles and the elders of the early church all are recorded in the Gospels, Acts etc as performing faith healing. If you truly believe that God does not ordain faith healing, then you deny the scriptures.

24 posted on 08/03/2010 12:01:51 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

Do you still believe that By Jesus’ stripes she can be medically healed?


26 posted on 08/03/2010 12:04:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: taxcontrol

Will God change the circumstance that is or will destroy Rifqa or will God change her and those that lover her so the circumstance doesn’t overwhelm her and her those that love her?

 

I am cutting and pasting this from another website as it would take the rest of the day to compose a compelling argument that I find faith healers offensive.

 

I find them offensive for the very reason that “IF” and that is a big “IF” they were truly ordained by God to perform the miracle of healing, they would never fail in their efforts.  But they do.

 

Show me that man who has never failed in healing or proclaiming as much only to find that perfection from God never existed.

 

Jesus and the Apostles never failed in their miracles and they were specific and whole in their works.

 

If you tell me the man who layed hands on Rifqa healed wholly and has healed everyone else he ever touched, then I should meet him and study him.

 

Since I have never heard of him, then surely God and Medical Science do not agree on his ordination to perfectly perform acts of healing.

 

 

From the following website:  http://www.gospelway.com/god/miracles_duration.php

 

 

The Bible warns about false prophets:

Matthew 7:15; 2 Corinthians 11:13-15; 2 Peter 2:1; 1 John 4:1; etc.

The teachings of true inspired men always agreed with Scripture, and their predictions of the future always came true.

False prophets could be distinguished from true prophets, because teachings of false prophets did not always harmonize with scriptures and their predictions did not always come true (Deut. 18:20-22; Galatians 1:6-9; 2 John 9-11).

When the revelations of modern "prophets" are examined, invariably they eventually contradict the Bible and/or their predictions fail.

We earlier cited many examples of this. To demonstrate this to be true in any specific case, simply study their "revelations" according to these principles. Hence, they must be false prophets, not true ones.

Modern "miracles" have the characteristics of false miracles, not true miracles.

The Bible warns about false miracles:

Acts 8:9-13; 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12; Matthew 24:24; etc.

As previously studied, every true miracle always had all the following characteristics:

* There was conclusive evidence that the event really occurred.

* The event occurred instantaneously (or in exactly the limited time period God specified).

* There were never any failures when miracles were attempted (by Jesus or by His apostles after they received Holy Spirit baptism).

* The results always completely and perfectly accomplished the intended purpose.

* So the event was clearly impossible by natural law.

Men who had truly miraculous powers could be distinguished from those who worked false miracles by comparing the characteristics of the works performed.

To prove they were really from God, men with truly miraculous powers were willing to work miracles even in the presence of false teachers, and all their miracles always had all the characteristics of true miracles. False miracle workers were known by the fact their works lacked the characteristics of true miracles. Acts 8:5-13; 13:6-12; 19:11-17; 1 Kings 18:20-40; Ex. chaps 7-12 (esp. 8:17-19); see other examples previously listed.

On close examination, the works of all modern "miracle-workers" are found to lack some or all of the characteristics of true miracles.

We earlier gave examples of this. Again, to demonstrate it in any particular case, simply compare the events people claim are "miracles" to the Bible characteristics.

In practice people will usually refuse to work miracles in the presence of those who don't believe they can do them or those they claim are "false teachers." They rely instead on "testimonies" of those they have "healed." But this simply proves they are false, for men with true miracle power did not so refuse.

We continually hear people who claim they can do or have received miracles today. If these gifts exist today, there should be many examples that have the characteristics of true Bible miracles. But all we ever find are the frauds. So we must conclude that the gifts have ceased, and all those who claim to possess the gifts are false.

 


32 posted on 08/03/2010 12:18:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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