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No, Congressman, government does have limits
Washington Examiner ^ | 8/3/2010

Posted on 08/03/2010 7:45:32 AM PDT by markomalley

When Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., was told during a July 24 town hall meeting with constituents that he and public officials like him were "destroying this nation," he smirkingly replied, "And I guess you're here to save it. And that makes me very uncomfortable." This derision of a constituent was particularly poignant, considering that the questioner had only asked what limits would remain on the federal government if Congress could get away with passing a bill as destructive of individual rights as Obamacare. Stark responded that "I think that there are very few constitutional limits that would prevent the federal government from rules that could affect your private life." He was roundly booed, but then given another opportunity to respond. He observed that "the federal government, yes, can do most anything in this country."

Unfortunately, Stark's extreme views are common among the current congressional majority. Still, we have no doubt that those who wrote the Constitution would be astounded to hear such monarchical attitudes today since they were exactly what the American Revolution was fought to overcome.

Sadly, it probably comes as no surprise to most Americans that Washington politicians like Stark hold such a self-serving view of the Constitution. It's still shocking to hear it put in such stark terms. But Americans have been hearing this theme from their leaders throughout the current economic crisis: Those in power are mainstream agents of change, whereas those who, like Tea Partiers, protest bailouts, deficits, tax hikes and exploding national debt are disreputable radicals and even racists. This is the incumbent- protection narrative that seeks to discredit the middle-American rebellion sparked in 2009 when President Obama proposed an $862 billion economic stimulus program that most knew would mostly line the pockets of his political allies.

Congress is subject to checks and balances by other branches of government, as well as to specific constitutional limits. The First Amendment, for example, says "Congress shall make no law" on freedom of religion, speech, assembly and petition. The Second Amendment protects "the right of the people to keep and bear arms." The 10th Amendment says all powers not specifically enumerated for the federal government "are reserved to the states, or to the people." Washington politicians like Stark should get familiar with the founding documents, particularly this radical Constitution whose present advocates among his constituents make him so uncomfortable. After all, every two years for the past nearly four decades, he has taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution, and vowing to bear "true faith and allegiance to the same." It's past time such politicians get right with their vows.


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To: ExTexasRedhead

Best Sign I have Seen San Diego Tea Party Express October 24

sandiegoteaparty

21 posted on 08/03/2010 8:43:39 AM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: markomalley
This elected representative displays his arrogance and ignorance of the foundations of liberty which made his country the greatest place of freedom and opportunity on earth!

In order to defeat these ignorant so-called "progressives" and restore liberty, American citizens mush study and understand their Constitution's bounds and limits on government power.

The following essay is a beginning. It is from "Our Ageless Constitution."

Checks and Balances - The Constitutional Structure For
Limited And Balanced
Government

The Constitution was devised with an ingenious and intricate built-in system of checks and balances to guard the people's liberty against combinations of government power. It structured the Executive, Legislative, and Judiciary separate and wholly independent as to function, but coor­dinated for proper operation, with safeguards to prevent usurpations of power. Only by balancing each against the other two could freedom be preserved, said John Adams.

Another writer of the day summarized clearly the reasons for such checks and balances:

"INDEED, the dependence of any of these powers upon either of the others ... has so often been productive of such calamities... that the page of history seems to be one continued tale of human wretchedness." (Theophilus Parsons, ESSEX RESULTS)

What were some of these checks and balances believed so important to individual liberty? Several are listed below:

It is up to each generation to see that the integrity of the Constitutional structure for a free society is maintained by carefully preserving the system of checks and balances essential to limited and balanced government.

"To preserve them (is) as necessary as to institute them," said George Washington.


Footnote: Our Ageless Constitution, W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part III:  ISBN 0-937047-01-5

22 posted on 08/03/2010 9:39:33 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2
Oh, my! Gremlins. . . . Second paragraph should be : ". . . citizens must study and understand . . . ."
23 posted on 08/03/2010 9:41:37 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: markomalley

This is our fault...that We the People have allowed our employees to forget who is supposed to be running the show...


24 posted on 08/03/2010 9:46:23 AM PDT by mo
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To: markomalley

Fortney’s grasp on reality has stretched way beyond its limits.


25 posted on 08/03/2010 9:52:28 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: markomalley
He was roundly booed, but then given another opportunity to respond. He observed that "the federal government, yes, can do most anything in this country."

He's correct, the federal government can do most anything it wants to Americans...it's not constitutional, of course. Americans live in tyranny and don't even realize it...the federal government has discarded the constitution and is now illegitimate.

26 posted on 08/03/2010 10:39:38 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: FrankR; markomalley; ExTexasRedhead; ml/nj; All
The guy comes across as a senile old codger who is wrestling with the first signs of Alzheimers.

Agreed. I saw the video of his exchange with a lady who challenged the constitutionality of ObamaCare. Although her argument could have been better, she managed to expose Stark for what he is: a doddering old fool who couldn't even think of anything reasonable to respond to her grievances.

Stark's handlers should have known better than to expose him to a real Town Hall (that is, one not limited to Democrat activists) given the national mood and his mental status. Not too many Dem congresscritters are holding Town Halls this summer, I'd presume.

BTW, there is supposed to be a second part of that Stark Town Hall video. If someone can find it, please post a link.

27 posted on 08/03/2010 12:48:28 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Nosterrex
...I believe that an Atheist cannot in good conscience serve in public office.

I wouldn't be so absolute about that. Remember that there is a sentence in the Constitution barring any religious test for (federal) public office. There are some atheists who are capable of abiding by the Constitution, but certainly not Stark.

28 posted on 08/03/2010 12:57:40 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: markomalley
"the federal government, yes, can do most anything in this country."

Can it stop bullets, Neo-style?

Cuz it's gonna have to if it keeps this up much longer.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

29 posted on 08/03/2010 1:05:20 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: mo

Well said

We have allowed this to happen and now we must clean up our own mess.

Wither that or let our children live in fear.


30 posted on 08/03/2010 1:45:51 PM PDT by Steve Newton
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To: justiceseeker93

I could not hold office in a government that was founded upon the view that the state was absolute and denied the existence of God. I could not take the oath of office in which I would swear to support those views and laws. That is one reason that Christians did not serve in political office or the military before Constantine. I was making the assumption that an Atheist would find it contradictory to support and to promote the view that rights originated from God alone, and not from the state. Stark my see himself as an Ubermensch not bound by convention or conscience. I would hope that even Atheists would cherish honesty.


31 posted on 08/03/2010 1:48:22 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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