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A Muslim case against the mosque
NY Post ^ | August 3, 2010 | STEPHEN SCHWARTZ

Posted on 08/03/2010 2:44:02 AM PDT by Scanian

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf bills his plan for an Islamic cultural center near Ground Zero -- which the city's Landmarks Preservation Commission is expected to vote on tonight -- as a platform for interfaith cooperation, dialogue and understanding.

But the plan is obviously provocative and confrontational -- and it's hard to imagine that Rauf didn't know that long before it became public.

That's one big reason why American Muslims, like other Americans, should reject the project -- particularly if they really want to adhere to traditional Islamic principles. I say that as a Muslim convert since 1997.

Traditional, moderate Islam teaches Muslims living in non-Muslim-majority societies to obey the laws and customs of the country in which they reside. They must avoid conflict with their non-Muslim neighbors whenever possible.

Yet it was no secret that a major Islamic construction project near Ground Zero would offend many New Yorkers; indeed, American Muslims themselves were uneasy about the idea from the beginning. Rauf, while he preaches peace, chose the path of controversy and provocation by originating this mosque project.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: groundzero; imamrauf; muslimbrotherhood; wahabists
"Moderate Muslim" seems like an oxymoron to me but he author, a convert to Islam, sees it differently.

A Muslim named Schwartz? Who woulda thunk it??

1 posted on 08/03/2010 2:44:05 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian
Traditional, moderate Islam teaches Muslims living in non-Muslim-majority societies to obey the laws and customs of the country in which they reside. They must avoid conflict with their non-Muslim neighbors whenever possible.

Traditional, moderate Islam? This doesn't exist. And clearly the author of this piece must have missed the passages of the koran which dictate that all non-believers must either convert or die.

This reeks of taqiyya to me.

2 posted on 08/03/2010 2:50:00 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Scanian

As an athiest I couldn’t give a damn what those following this religion of violence and ultimate world-domination think about this subject. Followers of Islam think in terms of the long game—decades and centuries. We are willingly aiding them in their long-term goal of taking over and destroying this nation, and I see no reason to mince words about this woman-hating, child-molesting bunch who want to kill or enslave those who don’t agree with their perverted beliefs just because it is an established religion.


3 posted on 08/03/2010 2:52:25 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Fanaticism is described as redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim."-G. Santayana)
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To: Scanian
Following Islamic terrorist slaughters,disingenuous outfits like CAIR have been screaming “Bigot” and “Racist” anytime an American even THINKS there may be something wrong with an obviously terrorist enabling faith.
These Islamist operatives are frustrated that Americans have remained overwhelmingly nice to Muslims in spite of the evil atrocities their fellows commit on our soil.
Like black and white liberal race hustlers,their cries of bigot and racist thus ring blindingly and hypocritically hollow to the vast majority.
They need to provoke REAL violence so that,along with their fascist allies on the Left,they can finally have a “reason” to go totalitarian.
The “Yo Mama!” Mosque at Ground Zero,they hope,will be the ultimate provocation.
4 posted on 08/03/2010 3:02:36 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Too many Obamunists will go to prison if the GOP wins in November--ergo there will be no election.")
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To: pnh102

There is a third option, that to be a dhimmi. So Islam gives 3 choices, conversion,enslavement,death.


5 posted on 08/03/2010 3:20:50 AM PDT by Biggirl (AZ Is DOING THE JOB The Feds Should Be Doing, ENFORCING The Southern Border! =^..^=)
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To: Biggirl

If the thing does get built, I wouldn’t be surprised to see it brought down in some fashion.


6 posted on 08/03/2010 4:18:51 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Scanian
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf bills his plan for an Islamic cultural center near Ground Zero -- which the city's Landmarks Preservation Commission is expected to vote on tonight -- as a platform for interfaith cooperation, dialogue and understanding.

islam knows no such things as interfaith cooperation, dialogue, and understanding. My local church back in VA let the muzzies use the basement for their Friday worship. If the situation were reversed do you think the sons of allah would accommodate Christians? Sure - just look at all the churches in Riyadh......

7 posted on 08/03/2010 4:27:52 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: thethirddegree

I had made that prediction myself, that it will not last long, this planned mosque is so much hated.


8 posted on 08/03/2010 4:28:07 AM PDT by Biggirl (AZ Is DOING THE JOB The Feds Should Be Doing, ENFORCING The Southern Border! =^..^=)
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To: Scanian

“May the Schwartz be with you.”


9 posted on 08/03/2010 5:08:27 AM PDT by CPOSharky (They ain't "illegals." They are just unregistered democrats.)
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To: CPOSharky

A plague on him!


10 posted on 08/03/2010 5:11:55 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Call it what it is ...Islam is a cult!


11 posted on 08/03/2010 5:24:52 AM PDT by jrd
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“May the Schwartz be with you” (Adorable!)

Anyway, howcum this convoit to Islam hasn’t Arabized his name? I thought that is a requirement when one “reverts” (their term) to the ROP.

Or does he have imamic permission to go undercover?


12 posted on 08/03/2010 5:39:06 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: Scanian

There are no moderate Muzzies.


13 posted on 08/03/2010 5:53:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Scanian

Just another “capo” Jew. Dime a dozen and I have a dollar.


14 posted on 08/03/2010 6:01:31 AM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: Darkwolf377

I’m with you. Every place on this globe where smoke is rising, there are muslims underneath it.


15 posted on 08/03/2010 6:01:35 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I can see November from my house.)
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To: Scanian

Drench the site in bacon grease.


16 posted on 08/03/2010 6:10:26 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (REAL Americans Bow to No One But The Almighty! - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Scanian

If you are a Muslim.

Lets take a look at some of the teachings to ALL Muslims taken from their own holy books.

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don’t kill them.) 2:191-2

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

Exhort the believers to fight. They will win easily, because disbelievers are without intelligence. 8:65

Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. 9:5

The “Religion of Truth” (Islam) must prevail, by force if necessary, over all other religions. 9:33
Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 9:73

If you are Muslim, this is what you believe. Like it or not these statements are a statement of you faith.


17 posted on 08/03/2010 7:52:44 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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There is no way they can avoid thosefundamental Muslim beliefs. To toss them out would be turning Islam into a different religion altogether.

Their problem is that largely because of the internet they have been found out and resistance to their plans is growing—throughout the Western world, really. They can protest, whine, and plead “religious freedom” all they want but exposure of what the prophet requires of Muslims is causing their apologists to be ignored by informed people more and more.


18 posted on 08/04/2010 3:05:37 AM PDT by Scanian
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