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To: StolarStorm

You must excuse me for being confused.

Where you claim that Israel was legitimate and in the right for what it did on that boat and its blockade of Gaza, you also find nothing wrong with the British PM’s implication that such Israeli actions were criminal.

If this thread is about the British anti Israel stance, the contradiction should prove to you Peres’ statement.


163 posted on 08/02/2010 10:22:30 AM PDT by HearMe
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To: HearMe
I do not think the PM was correct. But I do not believe his views are based on anti-semetism. I also do not consider his statements to be demonstrative of a general anti-Israel bias, but rather against specific policies.

Even if they are, in the PM's case, I know from personal interaction with Brits that his views are NOT indicative of the "English" viewpoint as a whole.

Like I said before though, the PM's statements are likely a result of politics and economics. The financial ties the UK has to countries other than Israel are significant. When it comes down to day to day diplomacy, economic self interest usually trumps other considerations... just the way the world works.

Regardless, if the sh*t hits the fan, the UK will come to Israel's defense along with the USA. You may not agree with that, but I do. (we'll just have to differ on that).

On the discussion of allies of Israel. I'll answer my own question. Countries don't really have allies based on moral viewpoints. But people in those countries do.

The USA has a President that is not favorable toward Israel, but the people of the USA are. Same goes with Canada, the UK and so forth. Israel's allies are contained within nations, not the nations themselves. Heck there are even some allies in Muslim countries. Not many, but a few.

So, I go back to my original point, making blanket statements about the "English" being anti-semetic isn't helpful. Israel has allies among the English, so don't label them as Peres has done. Peres should have limited his comments to the PM specifically.

And I know I've caught flack about my comment that calling all the English bigots is counter productive. But I stand by it. It WILL create enemies amongst the English that weren't previously. Its simple psychology. People don't like those that don't like them. It may be immature, but its a reality. Call someone a bigot... and you may not create a bigot, but you will make an enemy.... especially if it was a unfair charge.
164 posted on 08/02/2010 10:50:02 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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