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To: STARWISE; onyx; maggief; hoosiermama; Liz

BTTT PING!

Great scoop by Cliff for those that might have missed it. The FBI ‘redacted’ lots of names as well. Probably names we all know too well now, like some on Beck’s chalkboard.


24 posted on 08/02/2010 4:58:18 PM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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To: penelopesire

T Y !!!


25 posted on 08/02/2010 5:01:02 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: penelopesire; onyx; maggief; hoosiermama; Liz

Howard Zinn: I Never, Ever Signed a Petition Claiming Bush Had Foreknowledge of 9/11; And Yet Here I Am Writing on the 911Truth.org Website That Bush Had Foreknowledge of 9/11

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As Charles Johnson wisely notes: Truthers lie.

Politico is flacking for Van Jones by “reporting” that fellow Truther signatory Howard Zinn is rushing to Van “Astronaut” Jones’ defense, claiming he (Zinn) was “misled” about the petition. Thus, by implication, bolstering “Astronaut” Jones’ claim that he was misled.

Correction: Actually Zinn doesn’t say he was “misled,” not exactly. That’s Charles Johnson’s gloss (”lied to”) on the statement. The actual staetment is thus:

“I did not sign a statement suggesting that ‘Bush had prior knowledge.’ I signed a statement calling for an investigation.”
This can be taken two ways:

1. He’s claiming an actual bait and switch, induced to sign one petition, then horrified to see his signature appended to a different one. (The Charles Johnson interpretation.)

2. He’s merely disputing what the petition means. He’s claiming it’s just a call for investigations, not a suggestion that Bush had foreknowledge of 9/11 (or that Bush premeditated 9/11). (This is Ben Smith’s belief.)

Well, either way, Charles Johnson loses. If 1 is intended, then Zinn is lying, because he had endorsed Trutherism months earlier on the 911Truth.org website itself. One does not need to be tricked into endorsing what one has already endorsed in one’s own words.

If 2 is intended, Zinn isn’t claiming he was mislead at all, and this helps Astronaut Jones not at all. Zinn is also lying in his revisionist characterization of the petition, because it’s both a call for investigations and a strong suggestion that “Bush Knew.”

In fact, it should be noted that Zinn is doing exactly what Jones is attempting to do: Having signed a petition clearly aligning himself with the craziest conspiracy theorists imaginable, he’s now claiming he either didn’t understand the petition or otherwise failed to pick up on its diamond-clear-and-diamond-hard insinuations.

But this is to be expected; I have it on no lesser authority than Charles Johnson that Truthers lie. Especially about being Truthers, and especially when caught in the spotlight.

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27 posted on 08/02/2010 5:11:50 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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